Smoking in trucks

[steverospa]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band like useing a phone etc.
Has any body been dun for smoking in a truck yet or is it a law that no body d bothers about.
I might start taking pictures my self and reporting them. ( Steve non smoker)

[ROG]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band like useing a phone etc.
Has any body been dun for smoking in a truck yet or is it a law that no body d bothers about.
I might start taking pictures my self and reporting them. ( Steve non smoker)

There is a very long thread on this subject somewhere but I cannot locate it.

The smoking in a works vehicle is enforced only by the councils and not the police - they were quick to say that they will not do it - so to prosecute them the driver would need to be caught and punished within the councils area - not likely to happen. The councils do not have the power to stop a vehicle.

The law has made smokers 'more aware' of the needs of non-smokers which is a good thing IMO (I'm a smoker) but where the driver is usually the only one who uses the vehicle then there have been very few objections to smoking in it.

Must remember that it is the breathing in of the smoke that causes any real harm and not the smell of the residue - OK, not nice for those that do not smoke but the same could be said for the stale smell of curry or whatever........

[Harry Monk]

I am allowed to smoke in my cab, and what's more I have a letter from Swale Borough Council's Chief Environmental Health Officer confirming that I am allowed to smoke in my cab, so you go ahead and take as many photos of me as you want. Alternatively, you might consider "getting a life".

[tachograph]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band like useing a phone etc.
Has any body been dun for smoking in a truck yet or is it a law that no body d bothers about.
I might start taking pictures my self and reporting them. ( Steve non smoker)

Get a life

I'm a none smoker but can't say I've ever got wound up over someone smoking in their cab or car

[Harry Monk]

He would probably be more usefully employed studying the basics of the English language.

[Davey Driver]

Ahh the good old none smokers rear their head again Lol


Are these the same people who complained about not being able to enjoy a drink in a pub or club because of the smoke?

The same people who cheered when the smoking ban was introduced?

The same people who are now complaining because their local pub or club has closed because the influx of non smokers into pubs never materialised and the smokers stopped going to the pubs leaving the landlords or publicans without any punters.?


Yeah non smokers have done the UK pub & club industry the world of good

Steve I would be delighted if you were driving down the road and took a photo of me smoking in a truck, in fact in my car which is registered to my company name

Seems to me your boss needs to give you a little more work to concentrate on rather than letting you worry what everyone else is doing

[davepenn54]

Sounds like he's been reading that good ole American book on salesmanship "How to Make Friends and Influence People"
If youv'e got the time and inclination to go round taking photos of driver's smoking in their cabs then it sounds like youv'e got too much spare time and nothing constructive to fill that time with but it could just be another wind up
Regards
Dave Penn;

[DAFMAD]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band

Perhaps you can put forward a good legible argument for why this should happen and how exactly it affects you so badly and no doubt makes your life so dangerous too ? Perhaps drivers shouldn't fart in their cabs either, or read nuddy mags, or have photos of their loved ones in the cab, snore when sleeping in their their cabs, anything else that doesn't affect you at all and is certainly none of your business. ?

[Sean]

This is confusing me, am I right in thinking that if your the sole user of a vehicle you can smoke?
One of our Joiners got busted by Blackpool council smoking in his van (Company van, but he is the only user) and they sent a fine that had to be paid. Is this just a case of over zelous pen pushers? Or is there a legal requirment companies have to enforce to stop people smoking in company vehicles.

[weemo]

I am allowed to smoke in my cab, and what's more I have a letter from Swale Borough Council's Chief Environmental Health Officer confirming that I am allowed to smoke in my cab, so you go ahead and take as many photos of me as you want. Alternatively, you might consider "getting a life".

LMAO nice one monk

[Smee]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band like using a phone etc.
Has any body been dun for smoking in a truck yet or is it a law that no body d bothers about.
I might start taking pictures my self and reporting them. ( Steve non smoker)

To whom are you going to send the pictures.......

Sounds a bit of a xxxxxx to me...............

[buck rogers]

I am allowed to smoke in my cab, and what's more I have a letter from Swale Borough Council's Chief Environmental Health Officer confirming that I am allowed to smoke in my cab, so you go ahead and take as many photos of me as you want. Alternatively, you might consider "getting a life".

hear hear!!
from buck,an ex smoker.

[Willy Gofar]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band

Perhaps you can put forward a good legible argument for why this should happen and how exactly it affects you so badly and no doubt makes your life so dangerous too ? Perhaps drivers shouldn't fart in their cabs either, or read nuddy mags, or have photos of their loved ones in the cab, snore when sleeping in their their cabs, anything else that doesn't affect you at all and is certainly none of your business. ?

Eh up old lad..................... no one told me I was allowed to read nuddy mags in the cab. Are you sure it's allowed ??????

[Harry Monk]

This is confusing me, am I right in thinking that if your the sole user of a vehicle you can smoke?
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Yes, that is correct. Under certain circumstances anyway. Like mine!

I published the correspondence between myself and Swale Borough Council when we received a complaint from them about my smoking in my company-owned tractor unit, and the thread title was "smoking in the cab- the definitive answer" but like ROG, I cannot find it, presumably because of the new forums we have.

Presumably it's archived so perhaps someone knows where it is?

[Cruise Control]

Cant say I personally loose sleep at night after seeing a driver smoke in their cab, end of the day its up to them what they do. Like some people on here they may be allowed to smoke in their cab anyway, but hey ho each to the own I guess. We probably all have pet hates that other people may see as acceptable.

He could join forces with the 'Warden of the 62", they would make an excelent team


It riles me though when you see a trucker using his hand held phone while driving or even worse on a roundabout , but hey that’s me . That has been beaten to death on here anyway, life goes on .

[ROG]

This is confusing me, am I right in thinking that if your the sole user of a vehicle you can smoke?
One of our Joiners got busted by Blackpool council smoking in his van (Company van, but he is the only user) and they sent a fine that had to be paid. Is this just a case of over zelous pen pushers? Or is there a legal requirment companies have to enforce to stop people smoking in company vehicles.

If the company agrees and there is one driver/person only using that vehicle - it's ok

[gogzy]

see ill smoke in a motor if its a total {zb} heap or it just smells bad, but when you can tell that somebody looks after the truck and is clean i dont tend to do it.

[DieselDemon]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band like useing a phone etc.
Has any body been dun for smoking in a truck yet or is it a law that no body d bothers about.
I might start taking pictures my self and reporting them. ( Steve non smoker)

Be careful, it can be quite difficult to sit with a camera rammed up your rectum.

[paul@midway]

Smoke in every wagon.At the end of the shift you would never know it.

[dieseldave]

When will smoking in trucks and cars be band like useing a phone etc.
Has any body been dun for smoking in a truck yet or is it a law that no body d bothers about.
I might start taking pictures my self and reporting them. ( Steve non smoker)

You'd best be careful to take your piccies only when your vehicle is at a standstill, otherwise you'll be comitting a more serious offence whilst amassing your evidence.

Be careful, it can be quite difficult to sit with a camera rammed up your rectum.

.....and taking pictures would be even more difficult.

[Grasshopper]

I have never really been bothered by people smoking, if they want to do it it is up to them. One of our drivers does smoke or used to anyway but he never smoked in the vehicles, that isnt allowed. Even if there wasnt a law about it i still wouldnt allow smoking in the trucks, but thats down to each company. Going round and taking photos seems a bit extreme!

[Harry Monk]

Here is the letter wot I wrote to him.....

Dear Mr Michael Moss,

I am writing with regard to a letter received by my employer, Fleetwood
Transport about the Health Act 2006, following a complaint from a witness
that I was smoking in the vehicle GN54CYO, an articulated lorry tractor
unit. Your reference is ENF-SMF-08-0054



My employer has passed on the letter for me to deal with.

I am the driver of the vehicle. This is not a pool vehicle which returns to
base every night, it is an allocated vehicle and is to all intents and
purposes my home, having beds, refrigerator, cooker, TV etc. I generally
live in it for five to six days a week. Last week, for example, I went to Spain in it.

Nobody else ever drives this vehicle, or ever has driven this vehicle. I am
the only person who ever uses it. We are obliged by law to retain for 12
months tachograph charts recording the activities of the vehicle and any
driver and you are welcome to inspect these by mutual arrangement to confirm this.
Additionally, no passenger ever travels in the vehicle.

This vehicle is therefore exempt from the Health Act 2006, as it is not used
by more than one person and I would be grateful if you would point this out
to your complainant and any future complainant.

Should you have any questions, please don't hestitate to ask, preferably by
email although I have supplied my contact details below.

Yours Sincerely,

Harry Monk,
The Park Bench,
Turnham Green,
Peckham.

And here is the letter wot he wrote to me...

Dear Mr Harry Monk,

I would like to begin by thanking you for your response to my letter dated 2nd October 2008, regarding a complaint about smoking within a potential smoke-free vehicle. From the information that you have provided, I agree with you, that the vehicle that you drive is exempt under the Health Act 2006 and that the letter can be disregarded.

I apologise for any inconvenience that my letter may have caused,
I am afraid that it is a standard letter and is used in all cases, even when further information is required. I have kept your comments on file, so that should a similar complaint be received, the complaint can be properly notified and no further action shall be taken against the company.

Thank you once again for your cooperation.
With regards

Michael Moss (Enforcement Officer

So he can stick that in his pipe and, er, smoke it!

[ROG]

Here is the letter wot I wrote to him.....

Dear Mr Michael Moss,
I generally live in it for five to six days a week.
Harry Monk,
The Park Bench,
Turnham Green,
Peckham.

I can see why - that bench must be really uncomfortable

[Harry Monk]

Well yes, especially as half of it is in Turnham Green and the other half in Peckham.

[steverospa]

He would probably be more usefully employed studying the basics of the English language.

Thanks for that coment on my English that's why I drive a truck like you lot and not work in a office were my English has to be up to your standard sir. As a member of Rospa Gold driver and Rider they are trying to stop smoking when driving because of safty not the smokers heath, the outher road users I don't think I do that bad for a dyxlic ADI Driving asser

[Harry Monk]

Must remember that it is the breathing in of the smoke that causes any real harm and not the smell of the residue

Not true. Non-smokers can catch cancer off of cowboys smoking in 1950's black & white Westerns on the telly. Or so they say.

[malcolmj]

just to add my two pennys worth, for what its worth yes i smoke in my truck not proud or boasting but its somthing ive done for years and a little sticker on my windscrean aint gonna stop me but i have stopped using a hand held phone and not got a open lap top on top of mw dash and neither do i now make a cuppa T whilst on the move

[Mike-C]

You could probably smell smoke in mine as i keep an ashtray in it, one of them chrome ones with a black push button top, i carry this so i don't get done for littering when i stop and get out for a smoke. I take my rubbish with me.
I also use and carry one of these to limit my cravings......
http://www.mallatts.com/commerce/produc ... &catId=219

And thats what i'll walk in court with if i'm ever given a penalty ticket for it

[Denis F]

Presumably it's archived so perhaps someone knows where it is?

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[biggusdickusgb]

He would probably be more usefully employed studying the basics of the English language.

Thanks for that coment on my English that's why I drive a truck like you lot and not work in a office were my English has to be up to your standard sir. As a member of Rospa Gold driver and Rider they are trying to stop smoking when driving because of safty not the smokers heath, the outher road users I don't think I do that bad for a dyxlic ADI Driving asser

another clown thats sat in a car and got a tufty badge, mind you it is a gold tufty badge

RoSPA Advanced Drivers and Riders aim is to reduce road accidents by encouraging an interest in road safety, by improving driving standards, knowledge and skill.

so just how exactly does smoking make it dangerous to drive?