There was a inceident in the yard which i was unhappy with, 1 of the drivers bent me over from behind, or tried too I did thump him and “asked him not to do that,” I then spoke to the boss later that day and told him, he then told th TM a few days later I found out that the driver had been sacked
There was a witness to all of this
I have found out that some of the other drivers are not happy as they think I should have said nothing, as he has a wife and family
Although I have taken no futher action, all I wanted was the boss to have a word so it didnt happen again
was he thinking about his wife and family when he did what he did
one persons horseplay is anotherones assult
while not defending the bloke i think dismissal is to harsh but can understand and fully back the tm’s actions
i know from a place i worked at ( in the 80’s ) how what starts as horseplay can end in what is not that far removed from sexuall assult and victimisation
i know you are feeling bad but in the end you were and are the victim here
i’m not saying you shouldn’t feel for the blokes family but you did no wrong
the sort of games he was playing belong in the dark ages we luckily live in the 21st centuary where we have a right to go to work and not be subjected to such purile and prejuvinaile attacks
you did the right thing flower as he did wrong he was the one who suffered
my wife had a male colleague who kept smacking the ladies bums (no it wasnt asda!!!) and 1 of the girls told her husband and he gave him a smack .the spineles pig went to the police and the poor bloke was arrested and went through hell for 5 months before they dropped the case .
whilst he was parading round acting the victim all the girls complained about him and he got the sack in the end as well as the manager as he had been told about it and did nothing . so dont worry we are all responsible for our actions and must face consequences if we do wrong
You were correct. That behavior was inappropriate and you, quite rightly, reported it. It was then in the hands of those above you.You should not feel badly for there actions. Whether there actions were correct and legal is not your problem.
If my wife were put in that position I would expect her to do the same. Not to mention I would “dicuss” the issue with the offender. Perhaps after this mans wife finds out he may have more than getting the boot to worry about.
yep, you did right. Once you had reported it it was down to the TM/Bosses to sort out. You don’t know what was said in that meeting, the driver may have flown of the handle and failed an attitude test - he may have been on a final warning for having done it to someone else before. There are many variables that you are unlikely to know about, he is responsible for his actions not you.
You don’t know what his disciplinary record was,up until the moment he did what he did,so if he was already on a warning,the management would have seen it as gross misconduct,and acted accordingly.
However,if his record was clean,then perhaps a final written,and a face to face apology may well have sufficed.
The fact he did ‘bend you over’ is totally out of order,and he would then have had to face his wife with the reason as to why he was sacked.
And if you defended yourself by thumping him,then remind me to avoid you in the pub on Friday night…
There is a difference between a bit of playful banter and assualt or bullying.
And from your response this wasn’t somebody having a joke with you, but at your expense.
You were right to report it, I’m surprised he was sacked, but like other had said I’m not sure if this was the last straw.
after you thumped him and told him you wernt happy about it i think you should have left it and saw what happened , if it happened again then reported it.
he maybe was reading the signals wrong, us blokes do have a habit of doing that
You have to rely on your own judgment at the time - if you felt so strongly about reporting it, then it was the right thing to do, so stick with it.
I had a similar situation several years ago, when a driver did the same thing to me, but also touched me “inappropriately” I told him in no uncertain terms that he had crossed the line. One of the other drivers who saw it happen reported him to the TM and when I got back to the yard I was hauled in the office and asked about my complaint - I said I wasn’t making a complaint, we had sorted it out between us. We don’t work there anymore, but we are good friends!
On the other hand, a few members will remember that I had a problem with a bloke recently (not a driver), and I got tremendous support from everyone on here, but unfortunately he intimidated me into leaving My TM was brilliant and would have happily hung him from the nearest bridge, but he didn’t have any control over the factory workers, and his manager felt he was too important to upset!
So it really does depend on the person and situation at the time. You made your decision and took action, now believe in your own judgment and don’t feel bad for someone else’s unwise actions.
One of the most serious offences in the workplace currently and in the past two or three years is ■■■■■■ harrassment (along with any kind of discrimination) and so company really don’t have any choice but sack the offender. They have a duty of care to each employee, therefore if they knowingly continue to employ this person they would leave them self open to a considerable compensation claim by you if you took the matter further, or had it occurred again probable legal proceedings, a shed load of bad press Etc. Lets face it though, it’s probably ok to have a laugh and a joke irrespective of gender but surely this guy was pushing it a bit (no pun intended!!).
ady1:
after you thumped him and told him you wernt happy about it i think you should have left it and saw what happened , if it happened again then reported it.
he maybe was reading the signals wrong, us blokes do have a habit of doing that
Sorry, but no ■■■■ excuse. It’s totally inappropriate behavior, end of - and trust me, most of us lasses have come across enough similar situations to know when it’s a bit of fun gone too far and when it’s aggressive ■■■■■■ assault.
All drivers, be they male or female, have the right to go about their business unmolested. Crying “I read the signals wrong” is simply no good - we’re not talking about a fumbled attempt at a snog here, after all, we’re talking about a full on physical assault.
If you “have a habit of reading the signals wrong” then you need to learn to confirm what you “think” is being said before acting on it. Going ahead and trying to bend someone over in the yard is simply appalling. Put yourself in her shoes, how would you have felt? Violated and scared, I can bet.
You did the right thing, Lady P. No question. I’m the last person on the face of this planet to cry discrimination or harrassment - to the point where I’ve dug stonking great holes for myself in the past and spent a very long time undoing the damage unaided as a consequence. Even I would have done the same in your shoes. He was totally out of order, end of.
Sorry, but I’ve got to increase the minority of 2 here to 3.
I have always believed in equality of treatment and if a driver had done that to me I would have taken it as a joke in the first instance, cuffed him appropriately and told him (not jokingly) not to do it again. Just as you did.
But reporting it should have been the reaction if it ever happened again.
im going to sit on the fence on this one (ouch). if it was a playfull thing then no i dont think you have done the right thing. however if it was done in a serious manner then yes you have done the right thing. how well did you know the person ?. was it his way of “breaking the ice” with regard to you or do you know him well ?. he maybe picked up a wrong signal regarding your sense of humour or lack off ?. either way its not some thing to be taken lightly when for the sake of a little horse play the man has lost his job. but if he was down right ignorant and thought he was being the “jack the lad” and has no regrets then maybe so. either way you have to look at both side of the argument before passing judgement
r slicker…u’ve saved me the hassle…those r exactly the questions i wanted answered…and mainly…‘Was the guy repentant■■?’…
We’ve all done something to someone else to which we thought was ok beforehand…then the person has reacted negatively…as soon as that happens u realise what a stupid idea it was… and immediately repented… make it up to that person as much as u can…and learn your lesson to never do it again…
No one on here can’t say in their years…they haven’t done such…
JUST WEREN’T THINKING!!!..is the what its called
Personally i would have given him a very stern warning…then in your own time…(but fairly quick…to keep any complaint fresh)… find out what he is really like from others…as said it may just be a one-off bit of wreckless behaviour…pretty sure u’ve done the odd bit of silly driving…then thought ooopppsss…very silly!!!
If this guy was known to be a bad apple…■■■■ it…straight to TM…his wife and kids is his problem…they may just be as bad…
For anyone supporting this guy…
Such violation when done by a ■■■■■■■■■■■■■ can be un-nerving…doesn’t go away easy…plays on the mind…and make u unnecessarily weiry of men…Seen a few women whose heads r slightly messed-up after such things…
Yours Lady P shouldn’t though…at least u know that someone is there n’ will protect u …against such crap…
Just ignore the other drivers…what’s done is done…they’ll shut up soon…
One thing great about this job…is u collect your paper work…and spend the rest of the day…away from all
Try n’ have a good one
Sorry if the english is bad…but its been a long night…and i’m now off to bed…hope u all enjoy the dots though…and i’ll be back later to ■■■■■ about those MAN’s…i had a great night in a Scania last night…A34 came and went…
Arrrhhhh Lady P
An important question i need answering though…(and this is why i’m losing my beauty sleep)…
How repentant was the guy immediately afterwards?
ooohh just one more…
be honest…how agressive was this incident■■?..
…and answer some of r slicker’s…then we can all start to have a better picture of the incident…rather than make judgement on a few facts…
SuperSmiley:
r slicker…u’ve saved me the hassle…those r exactly the questions i wanted answered…and mainly…‘Was the guy repentant■■?’…
We’ve all done something to someone else to which we thought was ok beforehand…then the person has reacted negatively…as soon as that happens u realise what a stupid idea it was… and immediately repented… make it up to that person as much as u can…and learn your lesson to never do it again…
No one on here can’t say in their years…they haven’t done such…
JUST WEREN’T THINKING!!!..is the what its called
Personally i would have given him a very stern warning…then in your own time…(but fairly quick…to keep any complaint fresh)… find out what he is really like from others…as said it may just be a one-off bit of wreckless behaviour…pretty sure u’ve done the odd bit of silly driving…then thought ooopppsss…very silly!!!
If this guy was known to be a bad apple…[zb] it…straight to TM…his wife and kids is his problem…they may just be as bad…
For anyone supporting this guy…
Such violation when done by a piece of [zb] can be un-nerving…doesn’t go away easy…plays on the mind…and make u unnecessarily weiry of men…Seen a few women whose heads r slightly messed-up after such things…
Yours Lady P shouldn’t though…at least u know that someone is there n’ will protect u …against such crap…
Just ignore the other drivers…what’s done is done…they’ll shut up soon…
One thing great about this job…is u collect your paper work…and spend the rest of the day…away from all
Try n’ have a good one
Sorry if the english is bad…but its been a long night…and i’m now off to bed…hope u all enjoy the dots though…and i’ll be back later to ■■■■■ about those MAN’s…i had a great night in a Scania last night…A34 came and went…
Arrrhhhh Lady P
An important question i need answering though…(and this is why i’m losing my beauty sleep)…
How repentant was the guy immediately afterwards?
ooohh just one more…
be honest…how agressive was this incident■■?..
…and answer some of r slicker’s…then we can all start to have a better picture of the incident…rather than make judgement on a few facts…
I told him in no uncertain terms that he had crossed the line. One of the other drivers who saw it happen reported him to the TM and when I got back to the yard I was hauled in the office and asked about my complaint - I said I wasn’t making a complaint, we had sorted it out between us. We don’t work there anymore, but we are good friends!
My TM was brilliant and would have happily hung him from the nearest bridge, but he didn’t have any control over the factory workers, and his manager felt he was too important to upset! 
