Working hours

Carryfast:

discoman:

Carryfast:

discoman:
Don’t take 9 hours off, I am sure everyone has 8 hours kip a day NOT, most get by on average of 6 hours

Until the inevitable result of that means a charge of causing death by dangerous driving then you’ll change sides to bringing the full weight of the law down on the unfortunate mug.

Point is, if the legal rest is 11 hours, drivers are mugs if they allow the employer to reduce rest to 9 hours. Am merely stating a lot of drivers and other professions get by on 6/7 hours sleep a night … most, DBDD, are caused by drink drivers, phones, drugs etc … prove fatigue caused a death is very hard … no different from a driver having a day off, can’t sleep , and get 1 to 2 hours before a 4 am start. All jobs it happens.

Just like this case.
We all know that if no mechanical issue or other explanation is found they’ll start investigating the driver’s rest regime.They’ll obviously differentiate sleep patterns from just having complied with daily rest rules as part of that.
Obviously even to the point of investigating phone records.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703935.stm

So subtracting a commute etc etc from a recorded 9 hour rest period will be no problem if/when the idea goes pear shaped.Complying with hours regs is no defence to a charge of falling asleep at the wheel.

Reduced rest period at most should only apply to tramping taken in the vehicle and should be compensated for by being added to the following daily rest period and the law are being at best complicit in putting the onus on drivers, in not calling on the government for that rule.

Lack of sleep might be a mitigating factor, but here lies the point and fact.

Drivers are not by law required to sleep for 7/8/9 hours during the legal rest requirement.

Example, your doing a shift start at 6am, sit on dock for 6 hours waiting for a container to be unloaded… you sleep for 4 hours, as some drivers do. You end up on a 15 hour at 9pm you park up. You want to be starting on the road at 6am … you fall off to sleep at 1am, and wake at 5:30am. Pure legal .