Had a delivery today where there’s one loading bay that serves maybe 10 small shops and cafes. Loading restrictions mean no loading/unloading anywhere else on the street in question between 11am and 5pm. The problem is the shop adjacent to the loading bay treats it as if it belongs to them, sometimes parking a vintage van there but mostly (like today) by putting cones out and standing postcard racks in the gutter. I moved the cones today and the postcard stand, to which a passer by said “you’ll have them out complaining.” Anyone else encounter shops and businesses doing things like this?
That’s obstruction, pure & simple.
Providing you don’t damage their stuff or remove it, but just move it out of the way, they can’t complain.
If they do, tell them to get the police along to sort it out.
Return the load and tell the guvnor that the consignee has no access for unloading freight nor even stopping with a truck.That puts the problem where it belongs with the consignee to sort out the issue with the ‘neighbours’ not you.
Used to deliver cars to a compound beside a furniture shop, they were failing as a business and maybe worried that our lorry outside there premises would affect passing trade…if they’d for one minute thought about it, they would have realised their miserable as bloody sin attitude would see any normal customer not wishing to have anything to do with them.
We tried to accommodate them as much as possible, i always backed down the side road if possible, but being how unhelpful they were didn’t win them too many friends among my colleagues, some of whom could be just as awkward back.
Miserable awkward buggers are everywhere, i acted unofficial banksman for a car transporter today out of the goodness of me heart 
, he had no choice due to dozens of parked cars and not a hope in hell of turning otherwise but to reverse out onto a retail park service road so told him i’d watch him out, bod in mini bus had already rounded the corner and being a professional miserable awkward sod took as much room up as possible on the corner itself making it impossible for car transporter lad, he sat there looking at me as if i was somehow to blame for the ills of an overcrowded retail sales park, and then started mouthing off about ‘‘what’s he doing’’, so i suggested that with hazard lights on and reversing down the road a good chance the bloke was backing out…‘where’s his reverse lights then’', well if you look there’s no reverse lights on it…this ■■■■■■■■ amusingly (really i did try not to laugh) continued for a while and finally it seemed to twig that until he gave the car carrier some room no one was going anywhere at any time, but he still made it awkward as poss,. the bloke in the car behind him who did have some common sense had already backed further away cos it was blindingly obvious what was needed.
Unfortunately this is the mentality of the people we share the world with, they cannot see that by being uncooperative, invariably they are cutting their own noses off to spite their face, you cannot help these people, they are lacking something basic.
I find it strange that some businesses have written in their planning permission that vehicles delivering must enter and leave in a forward gear and no unloading in the road. Garages on new out of town development have cars delivered, unloaded and loaded on the transporter in the road.
Juddian:
Unfortunately this is the mentality of the people we share the world with, they cannot see that by being uncooperative, invariably they are cutting their own noses off to spite their face, you cannot help these people, they are lacking something basic.
Ain’t that the truth? In a former life as a recovery cowboy, sorry, operator I got called out to sort a jack knifed HGV on the A1 north of Blyth. I reached to back of the queue and despite not having permission I started trundling up the h/s with headlights, hazard warning and beacons on. All went well until the obligatory sales rep in his German car took exception to this and swung across the h/s to stop me in my tracks. I got out of the truck just in time to hear his central locking clunk shut and crouched down beside his door staring at him. After a few minutes of him studiously ignoring me he finally cracked, opened his window a fraction and asked what I was staring at. I replied “I’m looking at your right ear to see if I can see straight through! Does it not occur to your pea sized mind that the recovery truck just may be trying to get to the obstruction ahead to clear it so that you can continue your oh so important journey?” He moved.
Odd days:
I find it strange that some businesses have written in their planning permission that vehicles delivering must enter and leave in a forward gear and no unloading in the road. Garages on new out of town development have cars delivered, unloaded and loaded on the transporter in the road.
Garages that have space to accommodate a car transporter on the forecourt off the road are few and far between, and the trouble with new out of town retail parks is that people who work on the estate block the whole place up with their parked cars (as was the problem today), including maneuvering room to get in and out of the garage, even if they try to make space for deliveries.
This delivery space lark is just one of the reasons i was glad to pack the cars in, it’s a nightmare now, the second you stop you’re pubic enema number one.
Thankfully on the tanks now i can only think of one delivery point i go to where we have to park on the road to discharge, and that’s in the middle of nowhere where maybe half a dozen cars per hour pass by, if that.
Muckaway:
Had a delivery today where there’s one loading bay that serves maybe 10 small shops and cafes. Loading restrictions mean no loading/unloading anywhere else on the street in question between 11am and 5pm. The problem is the shop adjacent to the loading bay treats it as if it belongs to them, sometimes parking a vintage van there but mostly (like today) by putting cones out and standing postcard racks in the gutter. I moved the cones today and the postcard stand, to which a passer by said “you’ll have them out complaining.” Anyone else encounter shops and businesses doing things like this?
If not for the Vintage van and the loading times I would have said this was Topsham outside the Co-op. I don’t bother using the loading bay any more and just block the street up, I’m only there for 6 minutes tops and the last time someone complained (many years ago) my TM told him to get out of bed earlier LOL
I work for the coop and most of the time have to do front door delivery.
80% of the time I will have problems with customers parking in my way.
Heck today I was doing a blind side reverse into a coop garage besides one of the few pumps and someone shoots in behind me while I’m reversing and tries to start fueling up.
This often happens.
Another one was a elderly guy who refused to move forward so I could get into the loading bay because he needed milk. He left upset because the store ran out of milk and the only milk was on my truck.
Honestly I think the elderly are the worst.
I’ve never had an issue with anyone under 30.
Can you double park to unload or not if someone is parked in a loading bay (not unloading)? A traffic warden in Lytham St Annes told me to do so when Mr Persian in his BMW thought a loading bay could be used to get a coffee.
Can you double park to unload or not if someone is parked in a loading bay (not unloading)? A traffic warden in Lytham St Annes told me to do so when Mr Persian in his BMW thought a loading bay could be used to get a coffee. I thought you could but you could be told to move if causing an obstruction?
The third world shanty town I work in is muder for morons parking in ridiculous places. Couple of years back I dragged a car up the road with the trailer crash bar after Abdul parked on a zig zag line
This isn’t the drivers problem at all. You tell the shop your delivering to that you need access, if they won’t help and sort it for you then I’d take a couple of photos as proof to my boss then I’d be phoning and say I can’t do the delivery. I can guarantee within half an hour after a few phone calls were made someone would have magically created access for me once the hauliers customer was told they will be charged for us taking it away, and then then their customer who were delivering to would be told re delivery charge would be passed onto them. Once money comes into businesses soon pull their fingers out.
A good many years ago I used to deliver to catering establishments in Dorset and Devon amongst other places. The first time I went to Bridport a traffic warden came rushing along and asked me to wait a few minutes whilst she got all the legally cars shifted so I could park parallel to the kerb and in Bideford the police used to close the road so I could park as it was too narrow for cars to pass.
In those days commonsense prevailed and the attitude was, if you can’t deliver we go hungry.
Muckaway:
Can you double park to unload or not if someone is parked in a loading bay (not unloading)? A traffic warden in Lytham St Annes told me to do so when Mr Persian in his BMW thought a loading bay could be used to get a coffee. I thought you could but you could be told to move if causing an obstruction?
Done it a few times, car parks in loading bay, pull up behind in truck ask them to move. They say jog on. So bend unit an trailer around them an unload 30 odd beer barrels an stack them in a nice semi circle around the car. 
Juddian:
Odd days:
This delivery space lark is just one of the reasons i was glad to pack the cars in, it’s a nightmare now, the second you stop you’re pubic enema number one.
I tried and failed to come up with a suitably witty comment…
You gotta love auto-correct.
Santa:
Juddian:
Odd days:
This delivery space lark is just one of the reasons i was glad to pack the cars in, it’s a nightmare now, the second you stop you’re pubic enema number one.I tried and failed to come up with a suitably witty comment…
Nope, entirely deliberate 
However, your conversations/texts must be interesting if your auto correct comes up with enemas and pubics 
the maoster:
Juddian:
Unfortunately this is the mentality of the people we share the world with, they cannot see that by being uncooperative, invariably they are cutting their own noses off to spite their face, you cannot help these people, they are lacking something basic.Ain’t that the truth? In a former life as a recovery cowboy, sorry, operator I got called out to sort a jack knifed HGV on the A1 north of Blyth. I reached to back of the queue and despite not having permission I started trundling up the h/s with headlights, hazard warning and beacons on. All went well until the obligatory sales rep in his German car took exception to this and swung across the h/s to stop me in my tracks. I got out of the truck just in time to hear his central locking clunk shut and crouched down beside his door staring at him. After a few minutes of him studiously ignoring me he finally cracked, opened his window a fraction and asked what I was staring at. I replied “I’m looking at your right ear to see if I can see straight through! Does it not occur to your pea sized mind that the recovery truck just may be trying to get to the obstruction ahead to clear it so that you can continue your oh so important journey?” He moved.
Class!!
the maoster:
Juddian:
Unfortunately this is the mentality of the people we share the world with, they cannot see that by being uncooperative, invariably they are cutting their own noses off to spite their face, you cannot help these people, they are lacking something basic.Ain’t that the truth? In a former life as a recovery cowboy, sorry, operator I got called out to sort a jack knifed HGV on the A1 north of Blyth. I reached to back of the queue and despite not having permission I started trundling up the h/s with headlights, hazard warning and beacons on. All went well until the obligatory sales rep in his German car took exception to this and swung across the h/s to stop me in my tracks. I got out of the truck just in time to hear his central locking clunk shut and crouched down beside his door staring at him. After a few minutes of him studiously ignoring me he finally cracked, opened his window a fraction and asked what I was staring at. I replied “I’m looking at your right ear to see if I can see straight through! Does it not occur to your pea sized mind that the recovery truck just may be trying to get to the obstruction ahead to clear it so that you can continue your oh so important journey?” He moved.
Always remember, without the idiots in this world we wouldn’t be superior.
kr79:
The third world shanty town I work in is muder for morons parking in ridiculous places. Couple of years back I dragged a car up the road with the trailer crash bar after Abdul parked on a zig zag line
No need for racism really, was there?