Will it register a break?

Hi guys new driver here would appreciate your advice I drive an empty truck 4.5 hours to an RDC centre I put the truck onto the loading bay I take out my tacho card and wait 2 hrs in the waiting/ break room.when I get in the new loaded truck and insert my tacho card do I need to take a 45min break or will the 2hrs I’ve been resting/waiting register on my card so I can carry on driving for another 4.5hrs?

Tommy rob:
Hi guys new driver here would appreciate your advice I drive an empty truck 4.5 hours to an RDC centre I put the truck onto the loading bay I take out my tacho card and wait 2 hrs in the waiting/ break room.when I get in the new loaded truck and insert my tacho card do I need to take a 45min break or will the 2hrs I’ve been resting/waiting register on my card so I can carry on driving for another 4.5hrs?

Why do you remove your card?.Or do you swap trucks? If you swap trucks then do a manual entry for a break.

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Why take the card out? Unless someone will move your truck just leave it in, select break and jobs a goodun. No fretting.

In your scenario it would depend on the manual entry you added. If tacho says something like “rest until now” and you say yes it will record break. Other tachos you’ve got to tell it. Older tachos might just leave it as a question mark which is unknown but presumed to be rest.

I take the card out because they give me a different truck to take back home

Tommy rob:
I take the card out because they give me a different truck to take back home

Manual entry is required

i always assumed that if you put it on break then removed the card,no manual entry would be required?

Thanks for the advice guys

Always book a break so it shows on the card, rather than as a manual entry - IF you get the choice.

Think of it from a VOSA inspector’s point of view: The card got popped, and then there’s a two hour gap (say) when you manually enter a 45 minute break… How is the inspector going to know you were not just blagging a break like you’re encouraged to do when working for pallethub outfits?

I’ve seen people take a quick 15 on a derv pump, pull off the bay, close their doors and book off a 15, and sit in a tip queue doing their curtains whilst booking off a 15…

It is not a stretch of the imagination for some drivers somewhere to really take the ■■■■ on such a move - and blag the entire 45 minutes by popping the card, driving the wagon around the yard (off the public highway, so they think they are staying legal) putting the card back in the same or different vehicle, having manaually entered a 45 minute break that you didn’t actually take…

C’mon! - Who hasn’t even been tempted to pull that stroke once or twice in their driving god career? :open_mouth:

qwakers:
i always assumed that if you put it on break then removed the card,no manual entry would be required?

That is for daily and weekly rest

All of your duties during the shift MUST be accounted for

qwakers:
i always assumed that if you put it on break then removed the card,no manual entry would be required?

It makes no difference on what mode it’s on when you eject or insert your card, if you don’t do a manual entry then the time the card is out will be recorded as ? = Unallocated time, which unless evidence to the contrary will be accepted as rest

Tommy rob:
Hi guys new driver here would appreciate your advice I drive an empty truck 4.5 hours to an RDC centre I put the truck onto the loading bay I take out my tacho card and wait 2 hrs in the waiting/ break room.when I get in the new loaded truck and insert my tacho card do I need to take a 45min break or will the 2hrs I’ve been resting/waiting register on my card so I can carry on driving for another 4.5hrs?

You need to do a manual entry otherwise it’ll record it as other work.

Manual entry it is. Thanks guys.

Tommy rob:
Manual entry it is. Thanks guys.

Yep take the card out
Back into new motor do a say 5 min man entry taking paperwork etc then break then the few mins of paperwork and walking back to the truck.

Conor:

Tommy rob:
Hi guys new driver here would appreciate your advice I drive an empty truck 4.5 hours to an RDC centre I put the truck onto the loading bay I take out my tacho card and wait 2 hrs in the waiting/ break room.when I get in the new loaded truck and insert my tacho card do I need to take a 45min break or will the 2hrs I’ve been resting/waiting register on my card so I can carry on driving for another 4.5hrs?

You need to do a manual entry otherwise it’ll record it as other work.

That’s impossible, with no manual, the time the card is out can only be recorded as ? Which is unallocated time

Winseer:
Always book a break so it shows on the card, rather than as a manual entry - IF you get the choice.

Think of it from a VOSA inspector’s point of view: The card got popped, and then there’s a two hour gap (say) when you manually enter a 45 minute break… How is the inspector going to know you were not just blagging a break like you’re encouraged to do when working for pallethub outfits?

I’ve seen people take a quick 15 on a derv pump, pull off the bay, close their doors and book off a 15, and sit in a tip queue doing their curtains whilst booking off a 15…

It is not a stretch of the imagination for some drivers somewhere to really take the ■■■■ on such a move - and blag the entire 45 minutes by popping the card, driving the wagon around the yard (off the public highway, so they think they are staying legal) putting the card back in the same or different vehicle, having manaually entered a 45 minute break that you didn’t actually take…

C’mon! - Who hasn’t even been tempted to pull that stroke once or twice in their driving god career? :open_mouth:

It makes no difference if the break is whilst the card is in or you manually enter one for when the card is out.

How does it being in the vehicle on break guarantee a driver wouldn’t go work in the warehouse?

It doesn’t matter what a dvsa bod thinks, they need to prove you weren’t on break whilst you’ve recorded a break and if you were on a break, they can’t

Stop spouting ■■■■■■■■