Has anyone watched this… is there any truth in any of these claims or is this just the media doing a hatchet job
on the transportation industry… quite a few well known EE Hauliers are implicated!
bald bloke:
Turning a blind eye to our problems - THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE) - Trucknet UK
Seems a bit far fetched Lol 
It’s on Facebook, must be true.
just another example of big business screwing over the workers for big bonuses for bosses and share holders. The only way this will change is for them to fight for better conditions, through industrial actions. Perhaps they should take some time off and spend some time in France and learn how too block roads from the farmers!
none of us want to be in their situation so when they do strike we should offer our support and stop the race to the bottom.
DeRooy, Harry Vos, and Ewals all used to employ Brit and other West Euro nationality drivers, 2 of which I have worked for myself in various capacities, direct and subby driver.
They discovered they could double man a truck for the same wage total (or less 
) that they were paying Western Euro drivers, and so the Victorian style exploitation kicked off.and the Brits were sent packing.
It’s easy to say the drivers should and should not do this that and the other, but jobs are scarce in their own areas and they are over a barrell as there is a constant supply out there waiting to take their places.
The fault lies with the likes of DeRooy (aka the lowest of the low) they should be on a comply or ban basis with the way they run their ■■■■ heap trucks, and face fines for encouraging and urging their drivers to run bent, (the type of fine that would put them out of the game for good)
The condoning and turning of a blind eye of these malpractices by the automotive and other major player industries is another reason for the way things are, these organisations are not blame free.
This is why I usually defend EE drivers on this forum, when they are portrayed as scumbags ruining the job etc, as many on here fail to see the bigger picture.
They are just blokes like you and me trying to make a living in a crap exploitative industry, …but even more crap and expoitative over there. 
All hush hush from the likes of DAF, Vauxhall etc…
as i mentioned in the the other thread,theyre getting a good wage for the country they live in,the same as if they were tramping away from home,so theyre no worse off anyway.
the cost of living there is peanuts compared to the west and if they dont like it,then leave if its so bad.
if they tramped away from home for a week or three,they would be living the same way,and the only reason their moaning is that the western dudes get mre for the same job
the companies are only exploiting loopholes in the law to enable them to do so the same way that the slimey lawyer gets beckham off with a blatent speeding,so whos to blame and what would you do if it was your company.
somewhat similar i would imagine as they are only a kebeb in a seat to the big players same as stobarts and similar here.
dieseldog999:
as i mentioned in the the other thread,theyre getting a good wage for the country they live in,the same as if they were tramping away from home,so theyre no worse off anyway.
the cost of living there is peanuts compared to the west and if they dont like it,then leave if its so bad.
if they tramped away from home for a week or three,they would be living the same way,and the only reason their moaning is that the western dudes get mre for the same job
the companies are only exploiting loopholes in the law to enable them to do so the same way that the slimey lawyer gets beckham off with a blatent speeding,so whos to blame and what would you do if it was your company.
somewhat similar i would imagine as they are only a kebeb in a seat to the big players same as stobarts and similar here.
The fact they’re not getting paid even an average wage in the Countries they’re working in, not only affects them, but the drivers they’ve replaced and those people who make money from well paid drivers who can afford to use the hostelries on their route.
And the organisation that made this video and is complaining about the situation is a Dutch Union.
Also the fact they’re using non EU drivers, exposes the lie that wages will balance themselves out, once these countries economies have grown, as to keep wages down they’ll just go to the next poor country and get workers from there instead, regardless whether its in the EU or not.
Also just because the companies are exploiting a loophole doesn’t make it acceptable.
they get about 500 a month which is decent for those countries is it not?
if we go and work anywhere else its mostly ok as our money is comparable.
if we went to work for example in denmark where i think £10 a pint isnt uncommonn,then would would live the way that they do. eating and spending as little as possible.
ive family working in sweden along with the flipflops who all just spend nothing,live on boiled eggs and fish,then send everything home to wait on them returning.
its different when you go to live in a poorer country than they other way around,but the principal is the same
dieseldog999:
they get about 500 a month which is decent for those countries is it not?
Well in Romania maybe, but not in the Netherlands or Belgium and that’s where they’re working.
Their employment on Romanian or Polish contracts, but working between Western European countries means they are putting downward pressure on drivers pay in those countries.
The only people to benefit from this are the investors in the big companies who get cheap transport, I don’t think VW’s or other cars have becoming massively cheaper because of it, I doubt even the haulage companies benefit long term as they have to reduce rates to keep contracts, even the countries lose out in terms of tax paid on the higher wages.
all they need to do is work somewhere else,they have the whole of western eure to choose from if they want a better job.
1 month on,then ryanair and back for a week off…not so bad really?
dieseldog999:
all they need to do is work somewhere else,they have the whole of western eure to choose from if they want a better job.
The video was made by a Dutch Union mostly complaining that this is not only exploiting workers, but puts better paid Western European drivers out of work.
And sure the East European drivers could go to the Country and work for a haulier on that Countries wages, (although in the video it showed that DE Rooy and Ewals although based in the Netherlands gave most of their drivers East European contract of work),
But as some of the drivers were Moldavian and Ukrainian, this means even if those East European drivers find better paid operators, other companies can still have a seemingly limitless supply of cheap drivers to draw on and those companies can continue to undercut the companies that pay proper wages for their country.
muckles:
dieseldog999:
all they need to do is work somewhere else,they have the whole of western eure to choose from if they want a better job.The video was made by a Dutch Union mostly complaining that this is not only exploiting workers, but puts better paid Western European drivers out of work.
And sure the East European drivers could go to the Country and work for a haulier on that Countries wages, (although in the video it showed that DE Rooy and Ewals although based in the Netherlands gave most of their drivers East European contract of work),
But as some of the drivers were Moldavian and Ukrainian, this means even if those East European drivers find better paid operators, other companies can still have a seemingly limitless supply of cheap drivers to draw on and those companies can continue to undercut the companies that pay proper wages for their country.
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im agreeing with you that its a bit underhand in practice,but the companies are playing the game with the cards their dealt with and the loophole is there to be utilised fully whhich is what their doing.
that type of company is just stobart and the likes of agencys where you are just a meaningless lemming to do your shift,and only ever as good as your last shift,plus they are not going to pay you a penny more than they have to which is what de rooy and similar are doing.
its up to the rha ( at this point you may laugh) or ee equivelants to pressure the ee powers that be to close the loophole.
as far as the drivers are concerned,then they are just doing the same job for the same pay as they would get tramping from home and its their own stupid fault for not working for a european company direct for decent wages as they must be able to be n the doorstep for plenty during their working days.
over the years ive worked in saudi and a couple of foriegn mobs but only because of the increase in wages,these bods,are doing it the wrong way round,which is why they have to sit eating camion cabbage and bread when their parked up.
its a shame,but nobody is holding a gun to their head.