But of advice needed, letter of the police?

So, had a minor bump back in June on the m60 just before the canal, (anticlockwise) I was moving from lane 2 to 1, and rubbed a car with the bottombof the n/s door, now instead of stopping in the live Lane I moved forward maybe 100feet to the crosshatchings at the start of the bridge so we wherent blocking traffic. I’m sure I saw the car drive past me and disappear onwards. I sat there for a while, traffic flowing freely, after a while I went back up the mway abd down in a loop just to check. No car, nothing. I called it into the office. Nothing more was said. Until I got home on Friday and had a letter from GMP stating my truck reg, failure to stop, failure to report and due care and attention, where you the driver?

I don’t know why or how this has come direct to me at home, shouldn’t it go to the office? I’m kinda panicking now

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If it were me I’d be contacting your company and asking for some legal assistance.

You didn’t fail to stop. I’m guessing the people are all claiming injuries and need this as the reason for not exchanging at the time. The police will probably see through this. But be careful.

There got the letter at the Mo, however it must have come to them first, how did the police vet my address?tacho records, trackers and hopefully mway cameras should be my friends

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Surely your tacho will show that you were stopped “for a while” after the incident.

Do you have location tracking on your phone?

Did you report it to the police within 24hours of it happening? Either in person or ringing 101? If not then it looks like the offence is complete.

The legal requirement is that the driver stop at the scene (which you apparently did) and exchange particulars with the other driver/property owner (which you apparently did not do, as they did not stop). If you don’t do all this, then you are also required to report the accident in person to a police officer or at a police station as soon as practicable and in any case within 24 hours. That’s why you have been sent the letter.

Try for legal aid? Although I THINK it´s only if 1: You really can´t afford a lawyer, and 2: If you stand a real chance of going to prison. DOn´t quote me though.

Cameras? No witnesses hanging around, obvs, but cameras may be a good bet?

You’ll not get Legal Aid for a minor Road Traffic offence.

Do they even do legal aid anymore? Thought it was duty solicitor on the day, especially for traffic offenders

Few things you should do

  1. Write out exactly what happened from your prospective in exhaustive detail.
  2. Gather evidence to support your story. Your tacho record at the time of the accident should warrant for the fact that you did stop and the car drove away. Perhaps enquire from Highway Agency the CCTV footage if available. Worse case scenario (perhaps unlikely) you MAY end up in court and getting as much defence for yourself as possible now is the thing to do.
  3. Ask your company if they are able to help you in this. Potential legal fees, tracking info, etc.
  4. You SHOULD report any accident as such to the police, but the fact you called the company, you could assume they’d take care of it for you? (■■■■ defence but plausible ignorance)
  5. If the company can’t help you in the legal matters. Ask for some legal advice. Find a local place that specialises in Road Accidents and they usually offer up free advice and if they can fight it for you and how.

This isn’t a hit and run, the letter they sent you is probably a generic scare letter, and if you can show evidence that it’s somewhat of a misunderstanding, they’ll probably drop it. Also ask the company as to why they haven’t informed you that the Police required your details. Only why they can find you if by asking the vehicle keepers.

Wheel Nut:
Do they even do legal aid anymore? Thought it was duty solicitor on the day, especially for traffic offenders

Yep, friend of mines wife does a load of paperwork for em in Liverpool.
She finds it very strange when she sees an English name on the papers.

Doesn´t duty solicitor just come in and make sure plod is allowing you your rights and advises you, in the first place, what to do? Then you go get your own solicitor, I THINK.

whatever you do dont write ,youll best get a solicitors advice what to write most are free for a consultation 1/2 hour or youll likely incriminate yourself in the wording specially if someone is claiming injury /loss of earnings .
Few years back i had someone claim total paralysis from the eyes down after a low speed crash in a vehicle of mine. i totally ignored putting anything in writing altho i had a lot to say and his claim was thrown out

corij:
whatever you do dont write ,youll best get a solicitors advice what to write most are free for a consultation 1/2 hour or youll likely incriminate yourself in the wording specially if someone is claiming injury /loss of earnings .
Few years back i had someone claim total paralysis from the eyes down after a low speed crash in a vehicle of mine. i totally ignored putting anything in writing altho i had a lot to say and his claim was thrown out

In your case that seems to be a wise decision. .

Thanks all, I’ll be talking with the office about it Friday and well go from there. If I need my own lawyer then well, funds are tight ish but I’ve got options.

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the nodding donkey:

corij:
whatever you do dont write ,youll best get a solicitors advice what to write most are free for a consultation 1/2 hour or youll likely incriminate yourself in the wording specially if someone is claiming injury /loss of earnings .
Few years back i had someone claim total paralysis from the eyes down after a low speed crash in a vehicle of mine. i totally ignored putting anything in writing altho i had a lot to say and his claim was thrown out

In your case that seems to be a wise decision. .

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Dont your trucks have dashcams? All of ours has a forward facing dashcam so the evidwnce will be there of the incident but definately if you stopping.

Stehinch:
So, had a minor bump back in June on the m60 just before the canal, (anticlockwise) I was moving from lane 2 to 1, and rubbed a car with the bottombof the n/s door, now instead of stopping in the live Lane I moved forward maybe 100feet to the crosshatchings at the start of the bridge so we wherent blocking traffic. I’m sure I saw the car drive past me and disappear onwards. I sat there for a while, traffic flowing freely, after a while I went back up the mway abd down in a loop just to check. No car, nothing. I called it into the office. Nothing more was said. Until I got home on Friday and had a letter from GMP stating my truck reg, failure to stop, failure to report and due care and attention, where you the driver?

I don’t know why or how this has come direct to me at home, shouldn’t it go to the office? I’m kinda panicking now

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As no injured persons were at the scene the Police will not/did not attend. however, you should of reported it to the local station or 101 and got a Cad number … did you put it in writing when you got back to the depot. You could be facing prosecution for failing to report the accident … because you failed to exchange details at the scene of the accident

All, I can suggest is you contact Highways England with said times and dates, under the FOI ask for copies or images of you stopped, they do keep the footage so do not let them give the nonsense it is deleted after said time. As said call them give the time and date, you would be surprised at how many people call in saying they see a vehicle hit another and drive off.

you need to prove beyond reasonable doubt you made every offer to stop (however failing to report the accident to the police within 24 hours is not good furthermore your employer should of advised you to also)… Dash Camera would of proved the intent to stop and exchange details etc … If it was a 50/50 or you felt he had hit your vehicle more than you hitting him, you should of reported it as them making off from the scene of an accident. …

in relation to the UDCA, ( you are saying you are sure you see it drive off, not compelling to prove as such, you have admitted your not sure) and failure to stop, can give the evidence to the fact you stopped and the vehicle who claimed to be hit did not stop, your print out can prove it?? will it tally up with the time and date etc?? … provide this information to the police in person, explaining … Ask the local plod to explain to how you did not stop etc, (they will say you failed to report the accident as per law, you have no defence for this) I think you are a victim of crash for cash scam and no doubt the victims vehicle … was written off by your truck. as said DASH CAM is a must nowadays.

GET LEGAL ADVICE ASAP.

I dunno but if there is a financial claim to be made, that will be against the vehicle’s insurers, so your company have an interest in getting involved on your,and their behalf.
If it is purely about your driving/accident reporting then they may be less interested.
Do you have legal aid insurance as part of a motor policy for your own car? Can this be of use? I don’t know, just a thought.

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If these were professional scammers they could well have given police a different time and location for this incident. They could have followed you for a distance and this could make your evidence unacceptable.

Personally I would seek professional advice as a conviction will affect your insurance premiums and your future job prospects.

Good luck and if they were scammers I hope they get caught and dealt with appropriately.

waddy640:
If these were professional scammers they could well have given police a different time and location for this incident. They could have followed you for a distance and this could make your evidence unacceptable.

Personally I would seek professional advice as a conviction will affect your insurance premiums and your future job prospects.

Good luck and if they were scammers I hope they get caught and dealt with appropriately.

Agreed, as he was driving a company vehicle at the time, I would suggest he asks his employers to provide the legal dept details it was a work related collision however, if the employer is not a decent outfit then they will leave him to fend for himself.