Hit and Run 2 trucks and 2 cars, pedestrian dies

It’s a scary situation when an rta,involving a victim who none of the drivers involved were possibly aware of,for numerous possible reasons,is pre judged as deliberate hit and run.

Where does it say it was a ‘deliberate hit an run’? and four drivers never felt or saw a thing … yea right !!

Saw this on the news yesterday, couldnt believe she was hit four times and not one stopped!

raymundo:
Where does it say it was a ‘deliberate hit an run’? and four drivers never felt or saw a thing … yea right !!

The word ‘run’ itself obviously implies knowledge of what’s supposedly being ‘run’ away from therefore a deliberate act. :unamused:

So four different criminally insane drivers are all involved in knowingly running someone over and they all decided to ‘run’ from the aftermath.Yeah right

As opposed to first truck catches and runs over a hidden pedestrian for whatever reason at the crossing without noticing in the mirrors then closely following traffic runs over the resulting hidden bundle of scattered ‘remains’ on the ground.On that note how many drivers even stop and check if presumed animal remains on the road ahead aren’t actually human or even recognisably human or animal every time they knowingly happen to come across them.Now just supposing that they actually were human remains,rather than a dropped sheet or an unfortunate fox,then the law then put two and two together based on circumstantial evidence making the 5 of a hit and run offence having been committed by an innocent driver. :unamused:

Who is prejudging it as deliberate hit and run?

When I worked on the coaches for a well known brand that may or may not have a Dara O’Brien lookalike on the side there was an overnight from Glasgow that ran someone over on the motorway and didn’t feel anything. It was another vehicke seeing remains, cctv and police which tracked the coach down which then got took off the road and ended up in the depot in Rugby for months. No action was ever taken regarding the driver. The depot stank of rotted remains as there was residue underneath.

AndrewG:
Saw this on the news yesterday, couldnt believe she was hit four times and not one stopped!

It’s London [emoji57]

Carryfast:
It’s a scary situation when an rta,involving a victim who none of the drivers involved were possibly aware of,for numerous possible reasons,is pre judged as deliberate hit and run.

Any Road traffic incident has a cause … there are no such thing as an accident … a person is always to blame …it was on a crossing a basic observational skill would of been a key factor in the incident … leaving the scene of an incident is deemed hit n run.

nomiS36:

AndrewG:
Saw this on the news yesterday, couldnt believe she was hit four times and not one stopped!

It’s London [emoji57]

My thoughts exactly,

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nomiS36:

AndrewG:
Saw this on the news yesterday, couldnt believe she was hit four times and not one stopped!

It’s London [emoji57]

My thoughts exactly,

Odds on that the cars were`nt insured, and the “trucks” were probably in the same category…South London is rife for it :open_mouth:

discoman:

Carryfast:
It’s a scary situation when an rta,involving a victim who none of the drivers involved were possibly aware of,for numerous possible reasons,is pre judged as deliberate hit and run.

Any Road traffic incident has a cause … there are no such thing as an accident … a person is always to blame …it was on a crossing a basic observational skill would of been a key factor in the incident … leaving the scene of an incident is deemed hit n run.

How does ‘basic observational skill’ deal with the issue of someone walking out onto a crossing,that was possibly at green when the driver started to cross it,at the side of a moving truck and then gets caught up and dragged under it while the driver is ‘observing’ the opposite side or ahead.Also bearing in mind that following traffic won’t see or be expecting to then come across the remains of the victim from underneath the truck ahead of them.Or even if they do the last thing they would expect is for the bundle driven over by the truck in the road ahead of them to be human.At which point left the scene of exactly what ‘incident’ to their knowledge.

On that note as I said do you check every suspicious looking object lying in the the road ahead of you for being human remains and assuming you didn’t and it was how would you then defend yourself against a charge of leaving the scene of an incident,or if you did even then causing the incident ?.It seems the idea of innocent until proven guilty isn’t part of your thinking just so long as it’s someone else who you’re trying to stitch up and not you. :unamused:

Fellas, please, you’d know if you hit someone. Even if the first hit was by the tail end of the first trailer, all the rest would’ve known. I reckon they’ll come forward after reading the appeal. They will all be found anyway. False plates, no insurance, not registered; it doesn’t matter, unless burned out, metropolitan police have almost watched them drive ‘home’. Watch that space…

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42363862

So at least one of the wagons was a rigid.
Didn’t even consider that. Even more reason why driver would have seen, felt and/or heard the contact with the pedestrian.
I’m not sure anything could have been done to save her and while aware it could’ve happened to any of us on here, you’d like to think, no matter how harrowing, you would stop soon after & call it in if nothing else. Not a great day for modern humanity. Let’s be bloody safe out there & watch for one another folks. Happy Christmas to all & sympathy to the deceased girl’s family.

RD7:
So at least one of the wagons was a rigid.
Didn’t even consider that. Even more reason why driver would have seen, felt and/or heard the contact with the pedestrian.
I’m not sure anything could have been done to save her and while aware it could’ve happened to any of us on here, you’d like to think, no matter how harrowing, you would stop soon after & call it in if nothing else. Not a great day for modern humanity. Let’s be bloody safe out there & watch for one another folks. Happy Christmas to all & sympathy to the deceased girl’s family.

Absolutely no possibility that the driver could have been looking in the opposite mirrors or ahead as she walked out against the crossing light into the road as the truck was going through on green.While of course we all notice and/or stop and check that anything and everything that we might come across lying in the road isn’t actually someone,or the remains of someone,who’s possibly been run over by a vehicle ahead.Especially if the obstruction suddenly appears from underneath it.Sometimes we have to accept that tragic accidents can sometimes happen.

A journalist colleague of mine was mistake for an anti-hunt protester and got hit by a Bedford horsebox, which then drove off.

There were witnesses, the incident was filmed, the vehicle details recorded, but the driver assured police that it was impossible to tell if you hit someone when you were driving a lorry, so he wasn’t charged.

GasGas:
A journalist colleague of mine was mistake for an anti-hunt protester and got hit by a Bedford horsebox, which then drove off.

There were witnesses, the incident was filmed, the vehicle details recorded, but the driver assured police that it was impossible to tell if you hit someone when you were driving a lorry, so he wasn’t charged.

Horsebox probably owned by the chief constable …

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42378366

It is now 2 trucks and 3 cars

Carryfast:

RD7:
So at least one of the wagons was a rigid.
Didn’t even consider that. Even more reason why driver would have seen, felt and/or heard the contact with the pedestrian.
I’m not sure anything could have been done to save her and while aware it could’ve happened to any of us on here, you’d like to think, no matter how harrowing, you would stop soon after & call it in if nothing else. Not a great day for modern humanity. Let’s be bloody safe out there & watch for one another folks. Happy Christmas to all & sympathy to the deceased girl’s family.

Absolutely no possibility that the driver could have been looking in the opposite mirrors or ahead as she walked out against the crossing light into the road as the truck was going through on green.While of course we all notice and/or stop and check that anything and everything that we might come across lying in the road isn’t actually someone,or the remains of someone,who’s possibly been run over by a vehicle ahead.Especially if the obstruction suddenly appears from underneath it.Sometimes we have to accept that tragic accidents can sometimes happen.

You’ve made yourself look like a fool in the past, with your ill founded and poorly researched diatribes, but this time you are surpassing even your deplorable standards. Are you really going to keep telling us that you can not see the difference between a person laying on the ground, and a fox?
Whilst it is possible to hit someone with a truck, whilst it’s dark and raining, and you are concentrating on the opposite side mirror, without noticing (we don’t know if the girl was struck and knocked down, or actually ran over by the truck), to postulate that a drivers following the first vehicle at about walking pace, would not have noticed her laying in the road, is ludicrous. And if you remain that running over a human body, is similar to running over a fox, you really need to go see a doctor.