60mph speed limit proposal for stretch of M1 motorway

The government is proposing to set up a 60mph speed limit for a 32-mile stretch of the M1, in a bid to cut pollution.

The Highways Agency says the new restriction would apply from 7am to 7pm, seven days a week.

It would be in place from junction 28, near Matlock, Derbyshire, to junction 35a, north of Rotherham.

Variable speed limits are widely used to aid traffic flow, but the RAC said this could be the first time they had been implemented to cut air pollution.

It warned that reducing the maximum speed from the national standard 70mph to 60mph could “pave the way for similar restrictions on other sections of motorway” and there would “inevitably be a negative impact on business efficiency and individual mobility”.
‘Cleaner vehicles’

The Highways Agency said the lower limit, which has been put out to consultation, was likely to remain for “several years”.

In its document, it stated that the current use of the 70mph speed limit for motorways was having “adverse impacts on air quality” and that cutting it would reduce emissions.

It also said the change would bring “reduced congestion, increased capacity and improved journey time reliability for users of the motorway”.

The normal speed limit would still apply to the rest of the M1, which runs from north London to Leeds.

New European Union guidelines on air quality come into force this year and the agency argued that a lower limit would be needed to ensure these were met on the section from junctions 28 and 35a, which goes past Mansfield, Chesterfield and Sheffield.

It said: “For the purposes of this consultation, it should be assumed that the speed limit will need to be in place for several years. However, we are not able to give an indication in this document of how many years the speed limit will need to be retained.”

But the document said: “It is expected that vehicle emissions will reduce as more new, cleaner vehicles come into use and older, more polluting vehicles become obsolete.”

The agency said it could change its plans, by limiting the operation of the lower speed limits to peak hours, or Mondays to Fridays.

The length of the stretch of road affected could be shortened too, it added.

RAC technical director David Bizley said: “This is a landmark proposal as to the best of our knowledge motorway speed limits have not previously been lowered in order to comply with environmental legislation.”

He added that it “would certainly negate some of the current benefits of operating this section as a ‘smart’ motorway where motorists are allowed to use the hard shoulder to reduce congestion”.

Mr Bizley also said: "More worryingly, it could pave the way for similar restrictions on other sections of motorway. While preserving air quality is obviously a paramount concern there will inevitably be a negative impact on business efficiency and individual mobility.

“This very powerfully demonstrates the impact that speed has on emissions and many will be surprised to hear that a reduction of just 10mph can have such a significant effect on improving air quality.”

The consultation will close on 3 March.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25619914

Not so long ago they were talking about raising it to 80…

pollution… right not so they can catch more people with speed traps :unamused:

does that mean we get a reduction in our Road fund Licence?

The same amount of co2 will be produced in 32 minutes as it would have been in 27 minutes and 42 seconds at 70mph, So it’s a money making scam.

What polloution ■■? If there I still polloution coming from vehicles ,what then is the point of having Euro 2,3,4,5,6, ■■? The emissions emitted from a euro 6 truck is cleaner than the air going In through the airfilter .And much is the same for cars…Sounds like people talking crap to the masses who don’t understand recent advances in vehicle technology

What happens when the cows :laughing: , rabbits :sunglasses: , sheep :smiley: and drunk truck drivers returning from the pubs ■■■■ into the atmosphere? :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: what a shower :wink:

Its so the pretend police can drive at 40 instead of 50. :imp:

What a load of cobblers this lot talk about, they will be wanting to put trucks on the HS2 next - if it ever gets built, the biggest white elephant ever.

DrivingMissDaisy:
Not so long ago they were talking about raising it to 80…

Left hand Right hand :unamused: , they often put stuff like this out to guage the reaction.

I will say though, I trot along steady to work on a Monday morning mostly or home on a Friday night not topping 60mph often, and most of the 80 miles are one up one down, But on the odd occasion that I’m a little late and get the foot down (take upto 20 mins off the commute) my fuel consumption drops quite a bit. So they might be onto something, but I dont like the sound off it being forced upon drivers, after all thats why there is 3 lanes, to give drivers a choice to motor on or trot steady :wink:

What gets me is they want us to use clean efficient vehicles here to ‘‘save the environment’’ yet all the old stock gets exported to be used in Africa etc :laughing: :laughing:

These barmy ideas are all a complete con and will only get worse till we get out of the EU.

How will it reduce congestion?

Everyone travelling at that speed will mean more bunching up which, if I’m not mistake, is congestion.

And why pick that stretch? Why not a one down south for example, or the West Country, or the M6 in Staffordshire?

Let’s get the hell out of the EU NOW.

I bet they don’t restrict similar roads in Germany/France/Italy/Spain etc etc.

Ken.

It’s obvious that it’s the thin end of the wedge to bring in a 40/50 mph single and dual NSL to avoid the embarrassment when someone points out the question of why waste loads of money on a multi lane motorway class road that’s subject to the same limit as a single lane single carriageway.All based on nicking more people.Although the 90 kmh limiter setting on trucks has effectively reduced most lanes of the country’s motorways to less than that speed anyway.

I was listening to the “lovely” HATO lady on radio 5 live today. She tried saying that because this stretch of motorway would now be a smart motorway, ie the hard shoulder can be used to reduce congestion, that all of a sudden there would be a lot more cars using this stretch of motorway.

Hence the good people of the the Highways Agency would be falling foul of the new emissions regulations, she said it would be “illegal” :open_mouth: , personally I wouldn’t really care if all motorways had a lower limit. A lot of car drivers can’t control nor maintain 70 miles an hour anyway.

But why can’t they be honest, we want to lower the speed limit because there are waaaaaay more cars on the road and lots of the drivers are mindless mongs. Oh and we’ll get a crap load of revenue in additional fines because people can’t tell the time…

F-reds

no doubt in the fulness of time you will be able to do 7hours dcpc on walking in front of the convoy with a red flag

limeyphil,

The same amount of co2 will be produced in 32 minutes as it would have been in 27 minutes and 42 seconds at 70mph, So it’s a money making scam.

It doesn’t actually work like that and, annoyingly, if people did stick to the 60 MPH limit, emissions would indeed be reduced.

What a load of ■■■■■■■■ & a waste of money, if I remember right that stretch if motorway isn’t capable if reaching 60mph most of the time anyway between 07-1900…

If anyone does want to read the full document and submit a comment you can download the consultation document from here: M1 junctions 31 to 32: variable speed limits - GOV.UK and there’s an email address to submit comments near the beginning.

Pimpdaddy:
What a load of ■■■■■■■■ & a waste of money, if I remember right that stretch if motorway isn’t capable if reaching 60mph most of the time anyway between 07-1900…

+1

I would point out that it is not only the M1 they are talking about the m6 m5 m20 m2 23 are also under the same scheme if you read the full article.

fingers:

Pimpdaddy:
What a load of ■■■■■■■■ & a waste of money, if I remember right that stretch if motorway isn’t capable if reaching 60mph most of the time anyway between 07-1900…

+1

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Javiatrix:
limeyphil,

The same amount of co2 will be produced in 32 minutes as it would have been in 27 minutes and 42 seconds at 70mph, So it’s a money making scam.

It doesn’t actually work like that and, annoyingly, if people did stick to the 60 MPH limit, emissions would indeed be reduced.

Not necessarily…

Cars are at their most efficient in top gear, around 2-2500rpm and some vehicles will need one gear lower than at 70mph, to do 60mph.

So any gains will be lost…in fact such vehicles may well pollute more…

In addition, cameras will be put up, and all the donkeys will hit the brakes slowing all the traffic down, which will then speed up…

All it will do is give the authorities chance to catch more speeding motorists and cause tailbacks.