Will David camions refusal to sign the latest EU treaty have any effect, positive or negative on the UK haulage industry?
What do you think was the reason he didn’t sign?
I think it is because a law was past not so long ago, which will force the government to have a referendum on EU membership if we give up any more powers to Brussels. As the government knows the British voters will vote us out of the EU. So that’s the real reason.
That and saving his cronies the bankers from being subjected to EU regulations and taxation.But the EU seems to have benefited the east european haulage industry more than ours anyway and we’d probably be better off out of it and then put permit restrictions on all loads destined for and going out of Britain in which British hauliers have to do at least 50% of all round trips.
What the politicians seem to forget, they’re supposed to be doing what the voters want, not what the ■■■■ they want! Why do they always seem to think they know whats best for us! I used to think it EU bods across here was a good idea, but now the recession is on and work is thin on the ground I am having second thoughts.
I was talking to a Slovakian driver last night, weirdest thing I’ve ever heard! He’d lived in Ireland for 6 1/2 half years, to hear someone from the eastern block speak broken English with an irish accent was weird. Anyways, we gets talking about work and jobs available and he starts spouting about the amount of Polish in the Country and that they are ruining for everyone else. The Polish appear to becoming a very unpopular race! But they have some cracking looking women 
Fileep:
But they have some cracking looking women
Yeah, why is that? I never have seen a ugly one yet 
mickyblue:
Fileep:
But they have some cracking looking womenYeah, why is that? I never have seen a ugly one yet
Maybe you have really low standarts? 
Riho:
mickyblue:
Fileep:
But they have some cracking looking womenYeah, why is that? I never have seen a ugly one yet
Maybe you have really low standarts?
have you seen my avatar, my standards are high
Aye, they’re all beauties…
TC
I think it is because a law was past not so long ago, which will force the government to have a referendum on EU membership if we give up any more powers to Brussels
you didn’t read the small print Phil.
The law was that “there would be a referendum on the changes” not on membership.
and even if they did have such a referendum, they would have it again and again untill they got the answer that they wanted…as in Eire!
All he done was to appeal to his back bencher and the city Fat Cats , and left this country in a kinda limbo. He should grow a pair and go to the country with the ultimate IN or OUT question.
Personaly, I dont care, as long as we are either, fully onboard, or right out of Europe. As it is now though, we are going to get even more shafted, and Cameron will go back trying to appease the franco/german alliance. and he will give away parts of the UK economy, and those parts wont be the theiving bankers, it will be more controls on us probably, thus allowing more eastern bloc hauliers to our market.
All them countries in the euro have done a cracking job so far. I cannot understand why so many are unhappy that our pm won’t go blindly with the other 26 just to fail at saving a crap experiment
We are exporting over 50% less to the EU as a percentage of our GDP than we did when we entered the EEC. We are importing more from the EU than we used to and we have a trading deficit of about £45Bn with the Eurozone so they’re not going to dump £45Bn of custom from us in a hurry. This only benefits EU hauliers though.
One can only hope with the ■■■■ storm going on with the Eurozone that we can instead concentrate on increasing export trade with BRIC countries (BRazil, India and China) who have economies with excellent growth compared to the slowly rotting corpse of the Eurozone and countries with who we have a trading surplus (yes, we export more stuff in monetary terms to China than we import by about £13Bn). Now this would be good for UK hauliers.
Measuring manufacturing output in money terms, we vary between 5th and 6th in the world despite what people say about us being a nation of shopkeepers. Concentrating on up coming economies rather than the dying one next to us would do this country wonders.
It has nothing to do with being in ‘Europe’ it was all to do with the ‘Euro’ as we are not in the euro I cant even see why he was there!!
What the french and germans wanted was to introduce a tax on all foreign exchange transactions to fund their ■■■■ up of the euro… As we have 40% of this market and Paris 2% along with Frankfurt who have 3% we would ineffect be rebuilding their mess, so quite rightly he told the Box heads and Kermits to shove it up their Arse!!!
Deepinvet:
It has nothing to do with being in ‘Europe’ it was all to do with the ‘Euro’ as we are not in the euro I cant even see why he was there!!
What the french and germans wanted was to introduce a tax on all foreign exchange transactions to fund their ■■■■ up of the euro… As we have 40% of this market and Paris 2% along with Frankfurt who have 3% we would ineffect be rebuilding their mess, so quite rightly he told the Box heads and Kermits to shove it up their Arse!!!
Agree with what you say there. But as Conor points out about the balance off trade defecit with the Continent, Cameron should have used thet to GB’s advantage, with an either play our game or we’re off childish maybe, but sod em. First thing he should have got is a level playing field for British transport, and the Spanish out of our fishing grounds. But let the Farmers wallow, they sold their(our) milk quota’s off to the highest bidder. German car dealers start quacking 
mickyblue:
Yeah, why is that? I never have seen a ugly one yet
Because the ugly ones are killed at birth so as not to bring shame on the Polish nation. We could do with some of that over here, especially in Hull.
Conor:
We are exporting over 50% less to the EU as a percentage of our GDP than we did when we entered the EEC. We are importing more from the EU than we used to and we have a trading deficit of about £45Bn with the Eurozone so they’re not going to dump £45Bn of custom from us in a hurry. This only benefits EU hauliers though.One can only hope with the [zb] storm going on with the Eurozone that we can instead concentrate on increasing export trade with BRIC countries (BRazil, India and China) who have economies with excellent growth compared to the slowly rotting corpse of the Eurozone and countries with who we have a trading surplus (yes, we export more stuff in monetary terms to China than we import by about £13Bn). Now this would be good for UK hauliers.
Measuring manufacturing output in money terms, we vary between 5th and 6th in the world despite what people say about us being a nation of shopkeepers. Concentrating on up coming economies rather than the dying one next to us would do this country wonders.
I’d like to see the figures which show that we’ve got a trade surplus with China and anything that the place does buy from us is done with money that we’ve already given them by investment in their economy to get it on it’s feet and by buying stuff from them that we could have made for ourselves.
More trade with China would just be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire with the added risk of helping the place to subsidise it’s military growth.The answer is to apply trade barriers in which we only import what we can’t produce for ourselves and China has absolutely nothing that we need that we can’t make ourselves.
Dunno about that… You ever seen a rice paddy in Yorkshire?
In seriousness, Curry, you sort of have a point, but much of the industry in the UK would need to be rebuilt from scratch and there simply isn’t the money or the will to do so. Dealing more with China has its merits. It would ■■■■ the US off for starters, and would probably increase the value of the Pound which would then start another round of nonsense within the Eurozone. The US, for all their troubles, still had to wade in and slag Cameron off for refusing to sign. They virtually accused him of protectionism, and that from the worst offender of protectionism in modern times.
To be honest, protectionism is about all the UK can do right now. The govt are still hiding the real books under the table and producing the cooked ones for consumption. I hope they have done a good job at cooking them as food poisoning leaves a really sour taste in the long term.
bobthedog:
Dunno about that… You ever seen a rice paddy in Yorkshire?In seriousness, Curry, you sort of have a point, but much of the industry in the UK would need to be rebuilt from scratch and there simply isn’t the money or the will to do so. Dealing more with China has its merits. It would ■■■■ the US off for starters, and would probably increase the value of the Pound which would then start another round of nonsense within the Eurozone. The US, for all their troubles, still had to wade in and slag Cameron off for refusing to sign. They virtually accused him of protectionism, and that from the worst offender of protectionism in modern times.
To be honest, protectionism is about all the UK can do right now.
The more I see of what the US is doing the more I just can’t understand the place.They seem to be veering between the Tea Party lot and Obama’s lot and between them they seem to be losing the plot.
The idea of the big global free market economy that Thatcher and Reagan started up together with the new enlarged EU with the all the east european states is just being proved to be a total mess for all of us so I don’t get where the US is trying to take everyone.The idea of the global free market economy was just based on a flawed perception,by the bankers,of what was supposed to have caused the 1930’s crash.However bankers aren’t always the best people to trust.
There are still a few voices out here in the wilderness,on both sides of the Atlantic,who are saying that protectionism is the right way forward for everyone just like in real life it’s a self preservation society and the Chinese and the East Europeans aren’t in it for our benefit.
It’ll take time but I think that the whole idea of the global free market economy will end up being seen as the failed financial experiment that it was.The question is just how much money will the whole mistake have cost us.
Free market economy, how quaint 
Very naive CF, the US economy is not and never has been free, in the 40s/50s/60s/70s it was mostly supported by military spending during the Cold War.
Since then the economy has been steered in whichever direction the Big Companies, their Lobbyists and the Politicians (they buy) want to steer it in 
Look at the Car Company bail outs, nobody was buying GM and Chrysler products because they’re crap, people still bought Hondas, Toyotas, Hyundais and the others though, they didn’t need bailing out, the Government said it was to protect American jobs, bollox it was, GM and Chrysler make most of their junk in Mexico, whereas Honda, Toyota and Hyundai make cars in the USA, they’re the ones who provide Americans with jobs. Government at its best
Laws are passed to ensure that the rich get richer and Joe Public gets it up the arse, it doesn’t matter whether they call themselves left wing, right wing, communist, fascist, capitalist, it doesn’t matter what country you’re talking about, politicians are the same, they’re all a BOCs 
SmashedCrabFace:
We could do with some of that over here, especially in Hull.
You mean that we should export our ugly ones to Britain? Well, we already did and see what: average look of women on the street rised significantly in both countries 
Wot he said! ^^
Well second but last…lol