Q.Anon

This is more than a 5 minute read.
Doubt it will actually change anyone’s mind, but quite an interesting read.
theguardian.com/technology/ … on-reality

I can see where they are coming from, my mates in the pub keep me on an even keel, especially when there is something controversial. Judge Rinder has been doing a Holocaust programme which was fantastic, but Judge Rinder isn’t a real Judge. Donald Trump became POTUS because Bart and Lisa Simpson used subliminal messages on TV. Everyone saw it and laughed. The next thing, some people voted for him.

Columbo did something similar to prove a bloke had murdered someone after watching subliminal cuts in a film.

It’s right up there with the moon landings and 9-11 conspiracy. [emoji23][emoji12]

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Conspiracy theorists seem to believe that there is a global elite that want to take the world for themselves like their adgenda is written in stone.

Meanwhile in Georgia.

This has been in my wheelhouse for quite some time,all the makings of a psy-op on steroids tbh,a spot of ‘hopeium’ :sunglasses: to placate the,considerably tooled-up Trump, inclined demographic; but tha never knows.Could possibly be the only hope left for humanity in general at this point should the blue vermin seize the levers of power,although my instinct senses that’s not a copper-arsed certainty .David Ickes website has a fascinating interview with a chap concerning ‘common law’ i can recommend .

The distinctions between-Statute/Maritime law and Common law of the land is probably the most deliberately concealed control- mechanism of all time if i’m reading this correctly -Common Law,is gaining momentum across the world at a rate of knots (freudian slip nautical reference :slight_smile: ).It’s all very arcane,full of nautical terminology,apparently a legacy of the seafaring Phoenician empire (Phoenitic Alphabet), that takes as it’s MO that we are all viewed legally (maritime law) as dead-entities,rather than living,breathing ones.We are born and are issued a bill of goods certification (Berthed down the canal) and are viewed forever more through life as essentially bonded stock operating under- Corp (as in dead)- orate law.This could be a game-changer if folks like the one being interviewed by Icke get their ducks in a row. Many are relinquishing berth certificates and challenging the courts by stating themselves as living,breathing freemen of the land rather than the sea, although the courts are there to extract monies more than anything else and rely on bamboozling the accused who stand in the DOCK,yet another nautical reference :open_mouth: .This is a must- see despite the name Icke not exactly being catnip across this forum in particular :laughing:

The “blue vermim”?
It’s all part of a plan for world ■■■■■■■■■■ by…
The Smurfs!

AndieHyde:
Conspiracy theorists seem to believe that there is a global elite that want to take the world for themselves like their adgenda is written in stone.

Meanwhile in Georgia.

Meanwhile in Georgia, votes are continuing to be counted and counted and counted… Because they cannot quite get ahead of Trump by enough of a margin to avoid another re-count.

Betting markets for a number of outstanding states - have been kept open, because the powers in play here are determined that Trump needs to lose by more than just “Pensilvania” in case a SCOTUS judge overturns the Pensilvania result on proven allegations, voids the result, not to be re-run, or actually indicts officials in charge on election night at the actual polling counting stations… Blue counters, Blue Officials, Blue Local Govenors - what could possibly go wrong putting a Wolf, Fox, and Ferret in charge of the Hen & Chicks? (No, not the pub!)

SO…
You make it a close result in several states, and make a scattergun effect:

This has the effect as follows:

In states that were Blue to start with, in-person ballots are likely to favour the incumbent Democrats, whereas intimidated minority Trump voters - will more likely vote here by post.
So… Polling closes, all the in-person ballots are in… You call the state very soon after the polls close, that’ll then include nearly all the Blue votes, but will shut out (using the polling deadline) all those postal ballots which would have been say, 70/30 for Trump compared to the local in-person ballots counted already which would have split say, 63/37 for Biden.

This means that all blue-held states were effectively “Board Locked”, making it impossible to turn over a single blue state, even Virginia where Hilary barely held onto it in the 2016 election. Virginia - was called VERY early - mustn’t have too many of those postal ballots counted eh?
Once Trump cannot take any fresh Blue states, then the inverse of the “board lock” goes into play, where the balloting and counting stays open for as long as possible after the official close of polls…

As time drags on, sooner or later all the Republican postal ballots are going to be exhausted, but the Blues now now what their finishing line happens to be - that total number of Republican votes that has to be overtaken by an realistic and beliavable amount, too many - risks a turnout of over 100%, whilst too few means Trump just holds on… A narrow path to victory here, but aided and abetted by the ability and “moral hazard” of being able to inject extra postal ballots that may well be genuine, but had actually missed the deadline, and would normally be counted void IF the adjudicators been proper “impartial” - which in the swing states of course - they are most definitely NOT when the local governors and municipal leads happen to be … Democrat at least in “leaning”.
…NO WITNESSES for such practices of course. Trump observers in the buildings? No problemo - just put up screens where appropriate, such as when an extra box of “expired” votes has been found, and gets introduced to the count late on, chasing that originally faraway lofty overhead number, high into six figures, and yet strangely the state still not called for Trump early, despite numerous BLUE states being called with far lower winning overhead margins, and a lot MORE of the outstanding ballots to count to boot!

It is easy to rig an election - IF you control the narrative in the media, control “what reaches the courts” as “evidence” by bumming it off as somehow “invalid” (which was done with the Hunter B Laptop issue) and hey presto - the Establishment finally get rid of the Bad Orange Man with an unbelievable extra 8-10m votes arbitrarily added across at least half of all the states (putting them ALL in play) and not just the so-called Swing States, where the counting has been so slow, one must surely expect additionally interference during this extended period…

Fox News’ “early declaration for Arizona” might end up being the ■■■■-up that blew this whole thing wide open:
It drew attention to the less-obvious-at-first notion that "Any fraud taking place - would have to be rather wider than just in the swing states, or even just in THE swing state of Pensilvania…
For a while, the result for Pensilvania was apparently held back, despite the betting going 1.01, suggsting that the Dems were reluctant to get over the 270 electoral college line by just Pensilvania…
Eventually however, Pensilvania got declared, and the media immediately declared Biden the winner, despite a number of oustanding states that to this day have yet to be resolved as to “final count”, which would include things like “turnout data” and other likely easy-to-spot anomalies…

So it all comes down to this:

If Trump carries any of these outstanding states, and closes the electoral college gap to within ten of Biden’s - it will then all come down to Pensilvania, and that is assuming that Biden gets to keep Wisconsin and Michigan as well, where the margin of victory is so narrow, (and so unbelievable given the huge extra turnout we’re told is the case) Biden may well end up losing back to Trump those three rustbelt states, and if Arizona stays Red, then despite Biden keeping Nevada - the result is effectively a “Tread Water, No Changes” - which quite frankly is unbelievable considering we’re told an extra 15-20m people have apparently voted, taking turnout up to 89%? FFS Even PUTIN doesn’t get turnouts like THAT.

Finally, and this is very sad to suggest…
The Republicans have not lost any major scalps here, have added congress seats, and gone sideways in the senate…
Surely a “defeat” for Trump - would have taken at least a big scalp Republican figure, such as Lindsey Graham or Ted Cruz - with him?
…One would have thought…

A voter audit is required: But how does one verify anonymous votes that could easily be in the names of dead people, pets, house guests, tourists staying in the neighborhood, duplicate ballots sent only to card-carrying democrat registered voters, and of course - People playing “The officer Trap” at polling stations, where you walk around and around, putting a cap on, changing your jumper, putting a coat on, changing your glasses etc - to insert 3 or 4 polls by the same person, totally illegal of course, but hard to spot, let alone prove especially after the fact…

Any case Trump brings - will require a large amount of actual video footage taken at polling stations and counting bases.
If Trump cannot get hold of that material - then Trump is done.
If he CAN get hold of it?
His legal challenges grow legs, and there is a path to holding onto the whitehouse - providing he doesn’t lose any more states down south, which were supposed to be the final nail in the coffin, but extended counting or not - Biden just cannot get far enough ahead in these southern states to give him that one more state he needs, such as Georgia - to put him out of reach, even if the Rust Belt then gets taken back from him, minus Pensilvania.

What has all this got to do with OP topic?

Where do you think I’ve fallen off the face of the Earth to these past 2 months?

Dodging the great conservative poster’s purge - that’s what. Insufficiently financed at this time to ward off any mass purge of all MY internet accounts, unable to re-platform and defend myself.
So, I just went to ground for a few weeks.

Nothing else has changed at my end, other than I’m now a “survivor” rather than “down on my luck” as it were. :neutral_face:

JJ Rawlings has shuffled off.

Putin is planning on retiring.

Trumps benefactor said Biden is the winner.

Farage is meddling again in London.

Queen Elizabeth is staying on for another 2 years.

Winseer:

AndieHyde:
Conspiracy theorists seem to believe that there is a global elite that want to take the world for themselves like their adgenda is written in stone.

Meanwhile in Georgia.

Meanwhile in Georgia, votes are continuing to be counted and counted and counted… Because they cannot quite get ahead of Trump by enough of a margin to avoid another re-count.

Betting markets for a number of outstanding states - have been kept open, because the powers in play here are determined that Trump needs to lose by more than just “Pensilvania” in case a SCOTUS judge overturns the Pensilvania result on proven allegations, voids the result, not to be re-run, or actually indicts officials in charge on election night at the actual polling counting stations… Blue counters, Blue Officials, Blue Local Govenors - what could possibly go wrong putting a Wolf, Fox, and Ferret in charge of the Hen & Chicks? (No, not the pub!)

SO…
You make it a close result in several states, and make a scattergun effect:

This has the effect as follows:

In states that were Blue to start with, in-person ballots are likely to favour the incumbent Democrats, whereas intimidated minority Trump voters - will more likely vote here by post.
So… Polling closes, all the in-person ballots are in… You call the state very soon after the polls close, that’ll then include nearly all the Blue votes, but will shut out (using the polling deadline) all those postal ballots which would have been say, 70/30 for Trump compared to the local in-person ballots counted already which would have split say, 63/37 for Biden.

This means that all blue-held states were effectively “Board Locked”, making it impossible to turn over a single blue state, even Virginia where Hilary barely held onto it in the 2016 election. Virginia - was called VERY early - mustn’t have too many of those postal ballots counted eh?
Once Trump cannot take any fresh Blue states, then the inverse of the “board lock” goes into play, where the balloting and counting stays open for as long as possible after the official close of polls…

As time drags on, sooner or later all the Republican postal ballots are going to be exhausted, but the Blues now now what their finishing line happens to be - that total number of Republican votes that has to be overtaken by an realistic and beliavable amount, too many - risks a turnout of over 100%, whilst too few means Trump just holds on… A narrow path to victory here, but aided and abetted by the ability and “moral hazard” of being able to inject extra postal ballots that may well be genuine, but had actually missed the deadline, and would normally be counted void IF the adjudicators been proper “impartial” - which in the swing states of course - they are most definitely NOT when the local governors and municipal leads happen to be … Democrat at least in “leaning”.
…NO WITNESSES for such practices of course. Trump observers in the buildings? No problemo - just put up screens where appropriate, such as when an extra box of “expired” votes has been found, and gets introduced to the count late on, chasing that originally faraway lofty overhead number, high into six figures, and yet strangely the state still not called for Trump early, despite numerous BLUE states being called with far lower winning overhead margins, and a lot MORE of the outstanding ballots to count to boot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R--pUnMzNp8

It is easy to rig an election - IF you control the narrative in the media, control “what reaches the courts” as “evidence” by bumming it off as somehow “invalid” (which was done with the Hunter B Laptop issue) and hey presto - the Establishment finally get rid of the Bad Orange Man with an unbelievable extra 8-10m votes arbitrarily added across at least half of all the states (putting them ALL in play) and not just the so-called Swing States, where the counting has been so slow, one must surely expect additionally interference during this extended period…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ki6S-WsKU

Fox News’ “early declaration for Arizona” might end up being the ■■■■-up that blew this whole thing wide open:
It drew attention to the less-obvious-at-first notion that "Any fraud taking place - would have to be rather wider than just in the swing states, or even just in THE swing state of Pensilvania…
For a while, the result for Pensilvania was apparently held back, despite the betting going 1.01, suggsting that the Dems were reluctant to get over the 270 electoral college line by just Pensilvania…
Eventually however, Pensilvania got declared, and the media immediately declared Biden the winner, despite a number of oustanding states that to this day have yet to be resolved as to “final count”, which would include things like “turnout data” and other likely easy-to-spot anomalies…

So it all comes down to this:

If Trump carries any of these outstanding states, and closes the electoral college gap to within ten of Biden’s - it will then all come down to Pensilvania, and that is assuming that Biden gets to keep Wisconsin and Michigan as well, where the margin of victory is so narrow, (and so unbelievable given the huge extra turnout we’re told is the case) Biden may well end up losing back to Trump those three rustbelt states, and if Arizona stays Red, then despite Biden keeping Nevada - the result is effectively a “Tread Water, No Changes” - which quite frankly is unbelievable considering we’re told an extra 15-20m people have apparently voted, taking turnout up to 89%? FFS Even PUTIN doesn’t get turnouts like THAT.

Finally, and this is very sad to suggest…
The Republicans have not lost any major scalps here, have added congress seats, and gone sideways in the senate…
Surely a “defeat” for Trump - would have taken at least a big scalp Republican figure, such as Lindsey Graham or Ted Cruz - with him?
…One would have thought…

A voter audit is required: But how does one verify anonymous votes that could easily be in the names of dead people, pets, house guests, tourists staying in the neighborhood, duplicate ballots sent only to card-carrying democrat registered voters, and of course - People playing “The officer Trap” at polling stations, where you walk around and around, putting a cap on, changing your jumper, putting a coat on, changing your glasses etc - to insert 3 or 4 polls by the same person, totally illegal of course, but hard to spot, let alone prove especially after the fact…

Any case Trump brings - will require a large amount of actual video footage taken at polling stations and counting bases.
If Trump cannot get hold of that material - then Trump is done.
If he CAN get hold of it?
His legal challenges grow legs, and there is a path to holding onto the whitehouse - providing he doesn’t lose any more states down south, which were supposed to be the final nail in the coffin, but extended counting or not - Biden just cannot get far enough ahead in these southern states to give him that one more state he needs, such as Georgia - to put him out of reach, even if the Rust Belt then gets taken back from him, minus Pensilvania.

What has all this got to do with OP topic?

Where do you think I’ve fallen off the face of the Earth to these past 2 months?

Dodging the great conservative poster’s purge - that’s what. Insufficiently financed at this time to ward off any mass purge of all MY internet accounts, unable to re-platform and defend myself.
So, I just went to ground for a few weeks.

Nothing else has changed at my end, other than I’m now a “survivor” rather than “down on my luck” as it were. :neutral_face:

Welcome back old bean.As good an analysis as you will find anywhere appropo current affairs.

Just to clear up any misunderstanding

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

Now, who fancies some pizza?

It’s nice to be back without threat of being busted off the internet for posting this kind of stuff, or getting our mods here into trouble for not busting me off themselves, like Faceache, ■■■■■■■■ and Pootube routinely do these days…

Quick fact check for my post above:

Actual live betting markets for states that have NOT yet been officially called, regardless of “Media have already called it for Biden”…

Arizona

Georgia

Michigan

Nevada

North Carolina

Pennsylvania

Wisconsin

and of course…

“Next President” market, settled on whomever gets sworn in January 2021. It can be settled early if one side concedes, or the result is called by the supreme court instead.

The odds 1.10 are 1/10 on in old-fashioned betting odds. 1.20 is 1/5 on, 1.50 is 1/2 on, 2.00 is even money. It represents the return to a £1 stake.
When a price goes void on the blue side, and 1.01 on the Red side - that usually represents a full “first past the post” WIN for whatever result is being quoted there.

Of the bets above, only North Carolina looks like being close to going 1.01 at present. If it gets called for the Republicans in due course, it’ll be taken off the board, and settled.

Note that the “Next President” market has nearly two-thirds of a billion quid running on it! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

They DARE not settle this early with a “Press-called” result, or they risk paying out both sides, a fast track route to total disaster that even a Small book - just would not take.

Bugger what all the talking heads say - This truly is NOT over until “winners get paid off”.

If this were a Horse Race, then think of it as a very long-winded “Steward’s Enquiry” going on, which may or may not overturn the “original” called result.

It is very rare indeed for a racetrack to have a close result WITHOUT a “photo” being called for.
In older times, that photo might go to a “print” if judges still could not get a ■■■ paper between the two horses in the photo…
In these days of digital photography though, we have slow-motion perfect-pause video, so “prints” are only published in the Racetrack Lobby for “compliance” purposes, so the public can see the basis upon which the judges made their call.

Much money has been lost over people being sure Horse A had won it, only for a photo to prove that in fact Horse B got up by a whisker, to much upset from those who’s money was upon Horse A now settled as a Loser, especially groanful when that Horse A happened to be the heavily-backed Favorite…

In the US election, Joe Biden has been Favorite from start to finish, the establishment clearly never consdiering Trump to have had a chance whatsoever, despite being the incumbent on this occasion, and usually harder to beat because of that alone…

Prices of 1.10 rather than 1.01 means Joe Biden is effectively implied a 90% chance to be taking the presidency, NOT 100% or 99.9% as implied by odds of 1.01

All states quoted above - are therefore “Still in play” as well, of course. Any one or ALL of them - could end up being declared for Trump, whilst Biden has definitely NOT won North Carolina, because there were simply too many late Republican ballots mixed in with the late Biden inserts to make a difference. The lead does NOT change if the incoming vote batches are split 50/50, essentially. You can keep counting until 2022, but people would start to smell a rat once Turnout goes beyond 100% - Nicht Wahr?

Winseer:
It’s nice to be back without threat of being busted off the internet for posting this kind of stuff, or getting our mods here into trouble for not busting me off themselves, like Faceache, [zb], and Pootube routinely do these days…

Quick fact check for my post above:

Actual live betting markets for states that have NOT yet been officially called, regardless of “Media have already called it for Biden”…

Arizona
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

Georgia
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

Michigan
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

Nevada
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

North Carolina
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

Pennsylvania
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

Wisconsin
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

and of course…

“Next President” market, settled on whomever gets sworn in January 2021. It can be settled early if one side concedes, or the result is called by the supreme court instead.
Betfair Exchange | Best Odds Online, Back and Lay Betting

The odds 1.10 are 1/10 on in old-fashioned betting odds. 1.20 is 1/5 on, 1.50 is 1/2 on, 2.00 is even money. It represents the return to a £1 stake.
When a price goes void on the blue side, and 1.01 on the Red side - that usually represents a full “first past the post” WIN for whatever result is being quoted there.

Of the bets above, only North Carolina looks like being close to going 1.01 at present. If it gets called for the Republicans in due course, it’ll be taken off the board, and settled.

Note that the “Next President” market has nearly two-thirds of a billion quid running on it! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

They DARE not settle this early with a “Press-called” result, or they risk paying out both sides, a fast track route to total disaster that even a Small book - just would not take.

Bugger what all the talking heads say - This truly is NOT over until “winners get paid off”.

If this were a Horse Race, then think of it as a very long-winded “Steward’s Enquiry” going on, which may or may not overturn the “original” called result.

It is very rare indeed for a racetrack to have a close result WITHOUT a “photo” being called for.
In older times, that photo might go to a “print” if judges still could not get a ■■■ paper between the two horses in the photo…
In these days of digital photography though, we have slow-motion perfect-pause video, so “prints” are only published in the Racetrack Lobby for “compliance” purposes, so the public can see the basis upon which the judges made their call.

Much money has been lost over people being sure Horse A had won it, only for a photo to prove that in fact Horse B got up by a whisker, to much upset from those who’s money was upon Horse A now settled as a Loser, especially groanful when that Horse A happened to be the heavily-backed Favorite…

In the US election, Joe Biden has been Favorite from start to finish, the establishment clearly never consdiering Trump to have had a chance whatsoever, despite being the incumbent on this occasion, and usually harder to beat because of that alone…

Prices of 1.10 rather than 1.01 means Joe Biden is effectively implied a 90% chance to be taking the presidency, NOT 100% or 99.9% as implied by odds of 1.01

All states quoted above - are therefore “Still in play” as well, of course. Any one or ALL of them - could end up being declared for Trump, whilst Biden has definitely NOT won North Carolina, because there were simply too many late Republican ballots mixed in with the late Biden inserts to make a difference. The lead does NOT change if the incoming vote batches are split 50/50, essentially. You can keep counting until 2022, but people would start to smell a rat once Turnout goes beyond 100% - Nicht Wahr?

Ye gods,it’s a byzantine affair trying to get an intellectual purchase on all that stuff.That video you posted was revealing,i liked the ‘Manchurian’ tag reference they tried to put on Trump given that Obummer was the walking,talking, auto-cue drone embodiment of a Manchurian during it’s evil White-House tenure.Nobel-Prize winner ffs :imp: ,didn’t arch-satanist Kissinger get that same ‘peace prize’ for bombing Vietnam back to the stone age?
Let’s hope those ballot papers did get the digital-watermark-treatment as has been alluded to in certain places.

I’m working on the basis that Trump will get at least Wisconsin back, plus the southern states still in play. “Keeping Georgia” that the Dems have tried so hard to run on and on until they can add just enough ballots to overtake Trump - may be their final push too far, which brings the whole house of cards down, with Biden thinking “keeping Michigan and Pensylvania” will be enough for him to win - which it is NOT of course. Trump losing Pensilvania on it’s own - would take him down to 286 electoral college votes, and if he lost Georgia and took the rest? a 270-270 TIE. with both Pensylvania and Michigan almost certainlly going to produce enough “faithless electors” to get Trump rather than Biden over the line. Why? Because the weakness of an incoming Biden regime right now - is just too much to wear for even a swing state, let alone a Republican wider legislature.

The prices meanwhile - are not moving much. No one wants to back Biden at these long odds-on prices, and Trump backers are nibbling at the bigger odds “turned over” outcome - but quickly cease once the price is back to the “stable” level of 1/10 on (1.09-1.10) which means there isn’t that much confidence in the system by even those who think they’ve already stolen this election.
This is NOT like the 2000 election, where it all swung on Florida being won by 537 votes, with the two candidates being dependent upon Florida to get them over the line on that occasion.

Pensylvania is not florida this time neither.

Trump will find it easier to get back Wisconsin and Michigan, and rely on some faithless electors to act as “Tie Breakers” in Pensylvania, which has the most electoral college votes of the three…

First things first though:

North Carolina - is already in the bag, as is Alaska now.

Nevada will probably stay with Biden.

Arizona staying Red opens the door to Georgia staying red as well.

I don’t believe the events that have taken place in so many local counting offices - are going to stand up to much scrutiny. The media deliberately mis-representing what Trump says, and taking it out of context - will come back and bite them all in the arse, in the end…

There are even enough dissentors by this point that actually voted for Biden, but regret it already, and therefore would not object to the result being turned over in their respective neighborhoods…

Speaking of which…

<Legs grow before one’s eyes…>

Einstein is quoted as having said “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe”.

Reading some of these posts I can’t disagree with him.

If you’ve got money on Biden, then you have yet to be paid out if you bet on Biden taking the states I’ve listed as “Still in play” above.
If Biden had really won them already, then the books would have paid out on that result at the small odds Biden has been all this time…

I suggest then that the fact the books have NOT paid out means in no uncertain terms that “The final result is NOT in yet”.

You try and get paid out on Brexit taking place on January 1st…
Howls of derision from those who say “It already took place on January 31st”… Well, if that was the case - I certainlly didn’t get paid off on January 31st THIS year… I’ve got to wait until 1st January NEXT year, as my bet was the completion of a NO deal Brexit, which counts as an Australia-WTO style I’m told.
That means if Brexit gets cancelled - I lose. If Brexit is done on a Canada+++ or any other kind of EU-approved Deal - then I lose there as well.
Imagine if the books paid me out now when there is still time for Brexit to go ■■■■ up over these last few weeks of the year?

“Paddy Power” I think are quite imfamous for making THAT mistake in the past… Paying out on both sides, and losing money on the entire book as a result…

The other states not listed above - have already been settled btw. That means if you bet on Biden taking Montana - you lost. If you bet on Trump taking Minnesota - you also lost.
If you bet on either to win Wisconsin though, or any of the others? - they are still in play until the winner gets paid.

Let’s stop hearing the fake press trying to call these “results” before time. They don’t tell us the favorite is gonna win next year’s grand national, and trick the bookmakers into paying out the day before the bloody race has been run - do they?

Georgia and Arizona are NOT won yet, because the book is still open, and the price implies a 90% chance for Biden. NOT 100%.

Still no outstanding states settled for betting, but one interesting bet that WAS settled in an unexpected way today - at Cheltenham races, no less…

Imagine the number 6 horse is called “Biden” for a moment…

Dead Heat - Not.jpg
In your judgement - who won this race?
In Your judgement - who do you think the judges called as the winner of this race?

People who backed the number six horse here - were furious with the judges call, and it was NOT because the other horse was called to have beaten it, neither…

I’ll explain something about long-odds-on betting here:

In the betting on the photo that often takes place at racecourses in the minutes after a photo finish happens… The horse that looks like the obvious winner is often quoted up there at say, odds of 1.03, meaning you have to bet around £100 on it to win a return of £103 IF that horse is then declared the winner in due course.
The horse that looks like it has lost meanwhile, might be priced up there at 25/1 against… So if you had £100 on THIS horse, you’d be risking the same amount of money if you’re wrong, but stand to win £2500 rather than £3 if you’re correct…

The judge’s called it a “Dead Heat” - meaning BOTH sides get paid. - BUT “at half the odds including the stake returned”.
This means the £100 bet returned £51.50 on the number six horse, losing that punter who was “sure they’d called it correctly” - nearly half their wad they bet upon it…

Compare that to backers of the “loser”, who merely pick up £1350 rather than £2600 had it had been a “clean win” rather than a “Tied” result.
If you’d backed the “Dog” here, you’d be quids in nonetheless…

Trump’s price to hold onto Power has gone out to 25/1 against, and has now been backed into 16/1 against, the price still moving about with some volatility.
My feeling is that Trump has an ace up his sleeve, and it won’t be involving the Supreme Court, where his Opponents, being mainly lawyers as they are - have presumably got the SCOTUS base covered with some kind of contingency, IF that were the only card Trump can play here…

No one has been talking about the Electoral College Electors, which handed him victory LAST time in 2016, despite Trump getting millions of votes less than Hilary…
Two of these Electors refused to vote for him in states that Trump carried, whilst 5 defected from voting for Hilary in states SHE carried.

That means that it is more likley THIS time as well, that more electors will defect TO Trump rather than from Trump.

What if such “defections” made a difference to the outcome of this election?
What if you, as an elector - were so disgusted at being told to vote one way, when you can see it’s bent, but have been told to “shut up and do as you’re told”…?
If “Faithless Voting” is permitted of an elector - then my guess is that these Electors represent the REAL Dark Horse in this election.
“You simply cannot predict how they will vote”… Except that it is highly unlikely that they’ll “all go with serve” and simply vote unanimously for whomever supposedly carried that state they are electors of…

No WONDER Biden seemse to be chasing Trump’s winning tally of 306 electoral votes, rather than the traditional 270 as “finishing line” then!

…The Democrats must be greatly worried that a “Narrow win” where a half dozen defecting electors then taking it all away from them - might be about to happen when they vote on December 12th.

A win of 272 to 268 could be reversed by a net four faithless electors more moving from Biden TO Trump, and clearly if Hilary had 5 faithless electors in 2016, they do NOT want to be so sure a 272 to 268 win will stand up… So 306 is the target “to make it look legit” rather than 270. These states were originally intended all to be declared together and at once to get Biden over the line by a huge margin, straight to that new 306 target… The almost deliberate “slow counting” in so many states as I’ve listed above, the betting markets STILL having them all as “in play” - would appear to be the proof these states are “yet to be decided” rather than the utter crap coming from the media, trying to declare the establishment candidate easily beat the anti-establishment candidate, upon penalty of public censure (and censor!) should they not tow the line here.

There’s also the question of the final vote tallies in counties in those states ultimately called for the Democrats… Take California for instance…
Hilary’s majority over Trump in California alone in 2016 - represented MORE than Hilary’s total win in the nationwide popular vote…4m votes more in California to a total popular vote lead of 3m votes.
This means that without California, Hilary wouldn’t have even won the popular vote, an interesting statistic in itself.
The Electoral College was set up originally to specifically PREVENT a huge populated state from becoming de facto ruler of all the others in the union…
California has long had such delusions of grandeur though, it seems…

Now look at the results from Califonia, where the count is not actually complete yet, but called for Biden nearly two weeks since…
Trump’s vote has gone up around 20% from 2016, - but so has Biden’s tally by like 20.1%… Hmm…
Whatever Trump tallys, let’s just hang about until the Blue vote goes “one better” huh?

It isn’t the “Judges” that need convincing something is fishy here. It is the Electors, some of which in ANY state will have Republican leanings.
Perhaps the near 6million Republican votes in California getting the usual Zero electoral college votes for the Republican Party for the last 28 years - might just yet have a handful of those electors that might “do the other thing” to give some kind of sympathy outlet to the 6m Republican votes that otherwise “don’t go anywhere”… If it were PR rather than FptP - Trump might pick up as many as 22 electoral college votes from California alone… I wonder if the Democrats in their solid blue state - have put any contigency laws in place so “A faithless voter who votes for Trump - gets locked up”?
Would other liberal electors in other states - then decide to do a bit of “Rebelling” of their own?
States have different laws. No one likes to be pushed about, especially by the laws of another state that is not their own.

All the playing about has been about trying to convince Trump that he’s lost…

…Not everyone that plays chess though, lies down that King chess piece as “Resign” at the end.
Even Grand Master games sometimes end in a clean CheckMate that the loser didn’t see coming…
Observers - just don’t often see it, that’s all.

Looks to me like horse number six is 5 million votes, and 58 college votes out in front.
What do you see?

That is intended as a rhetorical question

Many years ago I used to work for a man who had 16 betting shops. 16. He taught me that the “house” never loses… just accumulates money!

Franglais:
Looks to me like horse number six is 5 million votes, and 58 college votes out in front.
What do you see?

That is intended as a rhetorical question

I see a horse that is just out of the picture yep that’s her Kamela and although six is the winner when he’s sent to the knackers yard next year for being unable to race anymore she’ll be declared the winner, good way into get power without being elected put up someone who is more than likely unable to do the job and insert his vice who would never have got elected had she stood, and they say Trump is trying to pull off a coup

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
Looks to me like horse number six is 5 million votes, and 58 college votes out in front.
What do you see?

That is intended as a rhetorical question

I see a horse that is just out of the picture yep that’s her Kamela and although six is the winner when he’s sent to the knackers yard next year for being unable to race anymore she’ll be declared the winner, good way into get power without being elected put up someone who is more than likely unable to do the job and insert his vice who would never have got elected had she stood, and they say Trump is trying to pull off a coup

The average life expectancy for a US male is about 78. But a 77 year old can expect to live for a further 10 years*.
Plus richer people tend to get better care, especially in the US, and live longer still. Chances are well in favour of Biden surviving 4 years.

Being unable to do the job has never been a disqualification for any politician, anywhere, anytime! :smiley:

*Life Expectancy Tables | AnnuityAdvantage

Franglais:

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
Looks to me like horse number six is 5 million votes, and 58 college votes out in front.
What do you see?

That is intended as a rhetorical question

I see a horse that is just out of the picture yep that’s her Kamela and although six is the winner when he’s sent to the knackers yard next year for being unable to race anymore she’ll be declared the winner, good way into get power without being elected put up someone who is more than likely unable to do the job and insert his vice who would never have got elected had she stood, and they say Trump is trying to pull off a coup

The average life expectancy for a US male is about 78. But a 77 year old can expect to live for a further 10 years*.
Plus richer people tend to get better care, especially in the US, and live longer still. Chances are well in favour of Biden surviving 4 years.

Being unable to do the job has never been a disqualification for any politician, anywhere, anytime! :smiley:

*Life Expectancy Tables | AnnuityAdvantage

He doesn’t need to die just be unable to do the job dementia can creep up very quickly especially when you’re already showing signs. TBH the whole election is a farce in a nation of 500 million the best two candidates are a pair of geriatrics? They deserve all they get if this is the best they can come up with, add that Biden wasn’t a lot of democrats first choice just shows how f…ed the US political system is