Coronavirus thread for cynics

STAY AT HOME ~ PROTECT THE NHS ~ SAVE LIVES
STAY AT HOME ~ PROTECT THE NHS ~ SAVE LIVES
STAY AT HOME ~ PROTECT THE NHS ~ SAVE LIVES
STAY AT HOME ~ PROTECT THE NHS ~ SAVE LIVES
and on and on the record plays…

This thread is not for those people cowering in the corner of their basement in a state of panic, waiting to die as they endlessly watch the hysteria being pumped out of their TV sets by BBC News and Sky News. This thread is for those people who are open-minded and are starting to question the seemingly overblown reaction to this alleged “pandemic”. If you fall into the former category, there is nothing for you to see here so please move along to one of the many other ‘panic’ threads where you can share your stories and salivate about how you’ve just reported your neighbour to the police for having the temerity to leave the confines of his house.

Let’s look at some facts, research and observations.

1. Italy’s insane CV19 death figures are lies.

Firstly, here is an excellent resource and very good read tracking all the CV19 news which looks closer into the various claims: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/. The first section in that link explains the Italy case.

"According to Italian Professor Walter Ricciardi, "only 12% of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus“, whereas in public reports “all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus“. This means that Italian death figures reported by the media have to be reduced by at least a factor of 8 to obtain actual deaths caused by the virus. Thus one ends up with at most a few dozen deaths per day, compared to an overall daily mortality of 1800 deaths and up to 20,000 flu deaths per year.”

Bloomberg report: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?. “More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”

2. Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, Pulmonologist (Pulmonology is a medical specialty that deals with diseases involving the respiratory tract). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI. Just in the first couple of minutes “approx 100 new virus strains every year … coronaviruses have always been part of them … all acute respiratory diseases contain between 7-15% coronavirus”. So just another virus then, same as every previous year. More on this below.

3. From WHO about influenza: Influenza (Seasonal).

“Worldwide, these annual epidemics are estimated to result in about 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness, and about 290 000 to 650 000 respiratory deaths.” Note that is 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness. Those figures don’t account for influenza cases as a whole. The CDC (Disease Burden of Flu | CDC) estimates that there are 9 to 45 million cases of influenza each year just in the USA alone.

Current coronavirus count for comparison : COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer. 1.2 million cases globally and 66,500 deaths, in 3 months, and that figure includes all cases including mild, not just the severe cases like the influenza numbers above, so even when you multiply those figures by 4 to get an annual number, you don’t need to be a mathematician to see that they still fall way way short of an average year for influenza.

4. USA total cases as of yesterday exceeded 280,000 with a death toll topping 7,000. Clearly scary numbers and absolute justification for the lockdown and social distancing to prevent the spread of this deadly virus… Oh wait…

Watch what they do, not what they say.

And, with 280,000 cases (the majority of which are in NY) the hospitals must be bursting at the seams with people queueing down the street. Oh wait… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfhzM1-SLt0. Youtube and twitter are awash with hundreds of videos from all around the country showing the same thing: empty tents and hospitals no busier than normal. Strange then how all the official news channels are showing us footage of hospitals being rammed when the entire population is on lockdown and so we must believe what they’re showing us. Anyone seeing the similarities with Chinese State media?

5. The Pentagon order NORAD and NorthComm top officials into Cheyenne Mountain Complex bunker along with 2 other undisclosed sites : COVID-19 Drives Command Teams Charged With Homeland Defense Into Cheyenne Mountain Bunker.

An underground bunker with recirculated air is the last place you’d want to be amidst a deadly virus. Government officials go to underground bunkers when there is a nuclear threat. What aren’t we being told?

6. Bill Gates. Read all of this and let it sink in: Did Bill Gates Just Reveal the Reason Behind the Lock-Downs? – OffGuardian. Gates stands to make a ■■■■ load of money from the vaccine. Pay attention to his quotes a third of the way down the page :

“We don’t want to have a lot of recovered people” (wait… what ?!)

"Eventually what we’ll have to have is certificates of who’s a recovered person, who’s a vaccinated person […] Because you don’t want people moving around the world where you’ll have some countries that won’t have it under control, sadly. You don’t want to completely block off the ability for people to go there and come back and move around. So eventually there will be this digital immunity proof that will help facilitate the global reopening up.”

Virus certificates and digital immunity proofs, huh?

But wait, that last rather frightening sentence wasn’t actually said in the interview, right?

Listen carefully:

Now compare with the unedited version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3VowBAYKZo#t=39m00s 39:20

Why was it edited out?

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In my opinion there are (at least) 3 cross-currents in play here:

1. Mandatory vaccines coming.
2. A ban on cash coming, to be replaced by a new digital currency (possibly SDR).
3. Total government control and tracking of your life and finances, same as China.

The jigsaw pieces all fit together and I see it playing out something like this:

1. The lockdown will remain in place until a vaccine is ready and there is enough of it to vaccinate the entire UK population. If that takes 18 months then that’s how long we’ll be in lockdown for. I think it is possible that there may be a temporary lifting, but this will be pre-planned to be temporary only to make people think the lockdown is over when in fact they plan to keep us under lockdown until the vaccine is ready.

2. Everyone will have to undertake a Coronavirus test. If you test positive you will legally be forced to remain in isolation until you’ve had the vaccine. Everyone will of course test positive, for the reasons stated by Dr. Wolfgang in point #2 at the top of this post , ergo if you want to go back to work, see your friends, socialise etc you will have to have the vaccine.

3. An app will be developed which - just like China - will be linked to your ID to track your vaccination status and precise movements and location at all times by 5G. You won’t be allowed to travel or enter shops if you can’t prove you’ve had the vaccine and/or you’ve been in proximity to people that haven’t had the vaccine and/or tested positive (same as China, Taiwan, S Korea, Singapore right now).

The app will have a social credit score system and facility to report people for all manner of wrong-doing. Judging by the tweets and posts I’ve read here and on other forums where people have been salivating at being able to report their friends and neighbours to the police for leaving their house, such a system will be a roaring success.

Not sure yet how this ‘app’ will be forced upon the OAP technophobes but presumably China found a way.

4. Cash will be refused by businesses and banks OTC because of the fearmongering that it can harbour the virus (the follow-on from the earlier reports that cash was “temporarily” being withdrawn from circulation for “quarantining and disinfecting”). This will lead to an outright ban on its use which by then no-one will care about because people will have already become accustomed to no business accepting it anyway.

Your digital bank account for the new digital currency will be on your phone (our version of the Chinese Wechat Pay or Airpay). Interest rates will then go negative so that you are involuntarily paying the banks to look after your money.

5. Brexit won’t happen - blamed on Coronavirus, of course.

I predict 1, 2, 3 and 5 will all happen before the end of 2021. For 4. I think the refusal of cash for transactions will come before the end of 2020. Businesses like banks are already refusing cash deposits, claiming it to be non-essential and telling you to use internet banking and have people transfer money to you by that means. Places like petrol stations won’t accept cash now because social distancing, use pay-at-pump. You can see where it’s heading.

Essentially I see this as the beginning of a New World Order and Police State. There is a news report from Gloucs police just a few hours ago that they were stopping people on major routes to ask for their papers to prove where they were travelling to. That is a akin to a Police State. The virus “hoax” is needed as justification to push through all the new laws and regulations that are coming in order to allow all the above to happen. Without it they would never get the proposals past the civil liberties groups who have a lot of weight and influence behind them. Doing it under the guise of “saving lives” and “protecting people” from a deadly virus is the perfect smokescreen for them to push it all through with minimal resistance. I think the notion many hold that this is only temporary and will “blow over in a few weeks then we’ll be back to normal” are frankly deluded.

It will be interesting to see which (if any) of my predictions come true . My colours are nailed to the mast now and I am prepared for the ridicule and mocking if none of it happens. In the meantime…

STAY AT HOME ~ PROTECT THE NHS ~ SAVE LIVES

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Indeed, the starter of this thread obviously has too much time to spare sitting behind a screen in his underpants while eating pot noodle and typing this drivel, I really ■■■■■■■ despair. We do not need this at this time.

R420, no ridicule from me, we are rushing headlong riding a wave, at the insistence of a dangerous MSM, of national hysteria, it would be funny if it was a comedy film, but you couldn’t actually make this up.

One thing you missed out, posts like yours will soon become another hate crime, punishments for which will vary between massive fines then being hounded out of your job, resulting in penury, or possible referral to re-education.
The very last thing they want is anyone thinking for themselves, you are supposed to be sat at home watching and listening to 24/7 propaganda from the state controlled media, you (and i and several others here) will already be flagged up on some register of dissidents.

Electronic signs up as you enter our town…No Excuses, Stay at Home, Protect the NHS…the same NHS which has become the new religion (with state driven virtue signalling applause required a la North Korea, woe betide those not applauding enthusisatically enough, they too will go on ze list) now Christianity has been all but driven out and surrendered to the new world order indoctrination by it’s western leaders, note African Christian leaders and some Americans ain’t having a bar of it and bully for them.

I don’t know which of your predictions will bear fruit first, i suspect may of them will in due course, cash is going to disappear without a doubt, much easier to magic digital money out of thin air than go to all the bother of printing it, plus in digital form when they want to plunder your savings Cyprus style its simple, no stormtroopers needed to tear granny’s matress to shreds because granny had more sense than to trust the coming world govt, just click and there goes the nest egg you worked 45 years for.
Surveillance is going to get heavier, but that was on the cards anyway, look how many here are happy for their very own CCTV pointed at their face, they can’t wait to be monitored 24/7 so they won’t care a jot when some faceless member of the state borg inserts a chip into their babies brain.

The nation has been on this track for decades, we’ve had one party (with three names) in power for some 40 years now, and no matter how appalling they prove the plebs vote them back in by the million, you couldn’t make it up, the elites view the plebs as cattle/sheep and sadly they have some justification for doing so.

Look at how many are unthused at grassing up others currently, where will this go next, a version of east germany with secret police and a network of willing informers, mkaes you wonder just how far they could go, ‘i vass obeying orders’.

Juddian, thanks for your supportive post. I completely agree with everything you’ve said. You are absolutely right about the hate crime - just like China where any criticism of the government or authorities will see you added to a list as a troublemaker and your social score turned negative with all sorts of restrictions on your movements implemented.

Not being a watcher of mainstream media I wasn’t even aware of the NHS virtue-signalling nonsense until a few days ago when I heard a commotion outside and went to peer out of the window. The irony is that everyone was stood grouped together out on the pavement, completely ignoring the social distancing ‘rules’ in place to prevent the spread of the alleged virus - the whole reason why the NHS staff are needed in the first place. What an utter farce! You couldn’t make it up! It will be interesting to see how long this North Korea-esque charade keeps up once people’s food and money runs out and they can no longer feed their families.

What I find utter perplexing is how seemingly everyone is blindly accepting what’s being pumped out of their TV sets without question. I follow another large forum quite closely and the majority of the membership there are highly educated people, many owning large, profitable businesses and a lot of professionals ranging from barristers, doctors, scientists, police, lawyers etc. You would think that they would be the first to cast a sceptical eye on the overblown hysteria that the media is reporting, but no, they too are all fully signed up members of the media and government ‘groupthink’ hysteria and every person that’s come along with an alternative viewpoint has received a barrage of abuse and been treated like an outcast. What is even more incredible is that most of them are begging that the government implement and enforce a full lockdown where nobody is allowed to leave their house for any reason, Jordan style, Army enforced with road blocks on every street and if you’re an essential worker you must show your papers to them in order to proceed. They are basically begging for a totalitarian regime akin to North Korea. It completely boggles my mind. How on earth have we got to this?

I fear we may have already passed the point of no return . It’s increasingly looking like mass rioting and looting across the globe is our only hope at stopping this (or at least delaying it).

Ah the vichy middle and professional classes, as usual feeding the beast in the hope it consumes them last.
Shocked beyond belief that this disease doesn’t differentiate between the lower orders and them, Covid 19 obviously didn’t get the full indoctrination package at Common Purpose, and running scared for once in their pampered lives that they might suffer a fate usually the sole reserve of the awful working class.

I too avoid the MSM, haven’t bought what was once known as a newspaper for at least 30 years, haven’t watched live broadcast terrestrial telly for years (and not returning), and avoid any radio news broadcasts, its from my alternative new sources i learned about the applause instruction for the nhs religion.

I just wish more people would switch off that state controlled idiot box in the corner and stop reading msm drivel, the effects are a bit like when chickens are freed from batterys, they are shocked and don’t know what to do for a few days but gradually become normal chickens again, in humans its the ability to think for yourself again, a bit like we used to be taught in schools in better days, how to think not what to think, too many people nowadays have to be told what to think about everything they have gone so far down the road.

We’ve all been on the ‘register’ since birth, hence your certificates were printed on the same paper your cash was, your cattle from birth, a literal cash cow with a granted value seed from the age of 16 when you can get credit.
That Dutch banker Ronald Bernard explains that one very nicely, or is he actually in on that all too?

As for this applauding in the street, have to say it seems a very commy thing to me too, NEVER seen this before for any other national crisis…

Did our soldiers get it when the floods was on, no.
Did the fire lads get it in Australia, no.
Did we see any of this once all these terror attacks over here happened, all the bombings in London? No.

Why now?

I was reading earlier about the nurses who dealt with the wounded soldiers in gallipoli, could only give em two tea spoons of water each a day, don’t here anybody mentioning what those poor souls dealt with all them years ago, so why now this we must conform to it.

I propose then it’s NHS Monday, fire brigade Tuesday, police sunday([emoji38]), care/social Wednesday, armed forces on a Thursday, truckers on a Friday…

We’re outta days before we even get to all the unsung like our bus drivers, cleaners, shop staff, Foster carers, animal charity’s, food banks, hostel staff…

And this is my problem with it all, when did we become a nation of people who now need to be told to be HUMANITARIAN /GREATFUL/RESPECTFUL/MINDFUL/THOUGHTFUL■■?

My mum was NHS for decades, she left due to all this new management culture an drone thinking.
As she said earlier, when she was a nurse you NEVER wore your uniform outside of the hospital for hygiene reasons, not anymore though, Weird hey…?
And as she said, we had matrons who ran wards an made sure supplies were secure, now as she pointed out we’ve had all these other things like Sars, swine flu…
Yet nothing was learnt from that an now we’ve no supplies?

Strange…

Now Figure this one,
My sis in law is ‘bank staff’ nurse for the NHS.
YET THE NHS HAVE LAID HER OFF■■?

Figure that one out…

Now to this new key worker point, My mrs has now become one of these new ‘front line’ worker categories.

She’s front of house in a shop.
No masks, JUST gloves.
Now, did she ask for this status, no.
She want it, no.
It’s her job, that’s it.
She chose too do it, and is ■■■■ greatful for it.
Funnily enough she wants to be a midwife but we just can’t afford it sadly, yet they claim they need them yet you can’t get trained unless you take a ton of debt, or go in an try as sis in law has yet as above she’s been laid off…

Now back to the mrs,
she went to her own company’s store(another branch) for some bits, in her work gear as she’d just finished a shift yet they’d had no milk in so just wanted a couple pints for kids an a brew.

So she’s in the que like everyone else, yet had literally dozens of people saying ‘you should go to the front as your important’… Wtf??
Two weeks ago you’d have ignored her, an even as they are now, spat at her for saying sorry its not in stock.
Alas, she politely declined and suggested the old boy behind her should be up front to which no one seemed so keen to hear, to which he also declined the offer, as he said ‘I’m no different to you Gal so I’ll wait me turn lol’.
I digress, she waited for him to come in an they actually went round TOGETHER too shop, ■■■■ the rules just kept a SENSIBLE distance whilst they chatted away about the madness, she helped him by getting some bits he couldn’t, an he watched her bag while chirpsing her an saying how she’s too pretty to be working in a shop, and how his wife would murder him for flirting with a young lady [emoji38][emoji38]

Suffice to say she used her discount card for him to which he offered to put her bags in his trolley an he’d walk her to her car as a Thankyou as she wouldn’t take his offer of some money for the discount.

I then walked him to his motor, loaded it, and banged his trolley back for him as my way of thanks to him for watching her back, as total strangers not looking for anything other than to be good folk.

Top old boy, we even shook hands too [emoji44][emoji44][emoji91][emoji91]
Neither of us were remotely worried, as we botn agreed, if the times the time so be it and he’d rather go now than go back an do another round of DIY for the Mrs [emoji38][emoji38]

Now that to me, us, my family an friends IS HOW LIFE IS SUPPOSED TO ■■■■ BE ALL THE TIME, AND FOR US IT IS.

Yet the rest of the world seem to have this absolute craving to have to be fed the ‘next’ ideology as they can’t have their own, an will turn coat quick as a flash when the next self valued(indoctrination) is put out to em.

I’ve got one near me who did a ‘week!!’ and that’s it as a home help, to avoid dss sanctions.

Now all of a sudden its FB page is updated with a pic of itself an the tag line ‘support the nhs’, yet this same person also has convictions for crimes against the police, and is known for causing ■■■■ IN A&E WAITING areas and being disorderly to the very staff who tried to help when it had an alcoholic meltdown!!!

And its looked after the vulnerable?

Welcome to the lunacy of the world we live in [emoji849]

I believe this virus is real, but I’m incredibly sceptical as regards to its ‘being’ and the agenda beneath it, and I’m also very wary of this new wave of band wagon thinking.

Yes we should all be honest, genuine, and pull the social line regards to our actions an conduct, but NOT for the sake of free thought.

I mean last year all we had was… ‘Muslims/terror attacks’
BREXIT
Iran, Turkey, syria, and all the other wars.
5G.
Greta.
Plastic in the oceans.

To name but a TINY few.

Now… NOTHING except covid.

I’m really trying to avoid the inner sceptic in me but that’s what I feel they want from us now, don’t trust your gut, trust the media… Which I never will.

I just pray the ALIENS turn up as by ■■■■ we need the distraction.

And there it is to me, its all one big distraction to what’s really going on, just keep distracting them with whatever they can until ultimately all you’ll believe is what you believe your being fed, or your own delusions of self self self.

Rant over. [emoji38]

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I fear it has already begun.
Here in New Zealand where we have been used as a proving ground for new and upcoming technology, are a bit ahead in some respects.
The chip and pin contactless payment has been here for nearly a decade so cash is already defunct to the point where, the few shops that are open will not accept cash as payment.
This has left a lot of old folks unable to obtain food and supplies and no doubt other vulnerable people in the community will also suffer.

Despite not being an "essential service " in my own town, right now. 5G mast installation is going on unhindered by organised protest, aided by special powers forced through parliament given to the police.

Stop taking any notice of mainstream news outlets, we are being lied to en masse and being led into oppression.

^^ your name vil also go on ze list Benjie yours has been on ze list for some time Andie

but you ain’t wrong, there’s something really big at play here, none of our lives will ever be the same.

See there are calls to ramp up the lockdown, the usual reliable sheeple (twitterati and facepalmers especially) repeating what they were told is right think, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas…is one still officially allowed to mention Christmas by the way, or is it now a winter festival so we don’t offend those who take offence on behalf of people who couldn’t actually care less

It’s refreshing to see more people are starting to view the whole sorry charade with the suspicion it truly deserves. I just wish more people would stop drinking the government and MSM kool-aid, take off their blinkers and engage their brains. If my opening post makes just one person stop and think about it then it was worth my time and effort writing it.

More stuff to ponder on… Coronavirus testing delayed after kits found to be contaminated by Covid-19 (numerous other sources available via a quick google)

The Sun:
Coronavirus testing delayed after kits found to be contaminated by Covid-19

[…]

Eurofins, which is based in Luxembourg, admitted there had been “an issue” but said other private providers had suffered the same problem.

It’s unclear how the components were contaminated…

How very convenient. And how very coincidental that other providers had suffered the same problem. Are we starting to see the picture yet folks?

Then there’s this from last year, before Coronavirus was even a thing: https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/12/23/bill-gates-develops-new-id-tattoo-to-check-for-vaccinations/

21stcenturywire:
Bill Gates Tattoo ID to check for vaccinations.

To make sure that you’ve had all of your required doses of government mandated vaccines, scientists at MIT have created a new ink which can be embedded in the skin which can be read using a special infra-red smart phone camera app.

[…]

Essentially, this is new tech which can allow public administrators, law enforcement and corporate employers, to check within seconds to make sure that you are “safe” to be around,” and do not pose ‘a danger to the rest of the community.’

As the article concludes:

21stcenturywire:
To some, this may seem like the stuff of science fiction, and yet it’s been openly discussed by government for decades.

No criticism from me either. Here’s something I posted on soshal meeja yesterday. I’ve copied and pasted 'cos I CBA to type it out again…

WOW, just ■■■■■■ WOW! Can’t believe what I’m seeing on social media from otherwise sensible people. Question everything guys FFS! The last generation of sheep who blindly followed the narrative disembarked the trains and willingly walked into the special showers at Auswitz, Dachau, Belsen etc.

Am I disregarding advice? Of course not, but I’m doing it with a very heavy heart. Please, please don’t fall into the trap of commenting on other people’s actions and judging their actions.

Don’t be a stooge and don’t sleepwalk into a new reality. All I’m saying is question everything and do not let your opinions be shaped by social media and the mainstream press lackeys.

Edit to add; you may question this post of mine. That’s fantastic and exactly how it should be. Why aren’t you questioning the official narrative?

That’s what I dont get. At all.

How did 6 million become so fragmented and subdued that they let that happen to them ?

I understand the concept of divide and conquer. Trust me, I am well expecting my door to get put in when I am at my most vulnerable( I.e in the shower ect. ) Due to opinions I may hold.
It has happened before.

I am just but one man, it is encouraging that others are also questioning the current narrative, but we are separated by continents and unlikely to form a coalition that could put up a defence against the well funded (by our taxes) men in black Helicopters.

I hope I am wrong, but if you are enthusiastically pushing me into the “showers”.
I will not go quietly.
I am going to bite your face off having exhausted every potential weapon available.

David Icke has a maniac grin as he runs round the room screaming " I told you so " " told you so ".

Regards John.

How do you control people? You make them afraid of something, then you offer to protect them from it.

Your theories are no less valid than mine and good to have more options to chew over.

Strange though how the government’s narrative being a cover for ‘‘The government regrets to inform you that we have been hit by an unrecoverable bio WMD attack all we can do now is to make the inevitable outcome of this manageable’’.The government hopes for your co operation in that’'.

Because the government doesn’t think the country can take the truth, doesn’t seem to be on your list.

On that note bs figures can just as easily be understating the level of the ongoing disaster as over stating it on that basis.
While for your theories to hold water you’re going to need to show a good reason why the government went running crying and panicking like a girl away from the idea of herd immunity to this bearing in mind that Measles before MMR was more contagious with a higher than stated than this death rate.

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Make that quarantine camps with communal showers with Chinese marching music played everywhere at all times to maintain good moral among patients.In the extremely unlikely event of anyone dying of the ‘virus’ they will obviously go for compulsory incineration for the good of camp hygiene which we are sure all our happy patients will understand.

youtube.com/watch?v=PHXLu8feOHc

Nite Owl:
How do you control people? You make them afraid of something, then you offer to protect them from it.

Yep the Fake virus to implement a power grab.But the scary bit is they don’t need or intend to actually ‘make you afraid’ or ‘offer’ to protect you.In this case they are saying we don’t care if you’re afraid or not and we aren’t offering, we will protect you from this Chinese Virus that we brought into the country.Quarantine camps up and running ASAP.Oh and your property will have to be taken to ‘pay’ for your ‘care’ and when you are obviously routinely released from quarantine you’ll be reallocated state provided accommodation according to your local council allocation policy.

(Al according to the protocols and orders of CCP high command in Beijing ).

bigstraight6:
Indeed, the starter of this thread obviously has too much time to spare sitting behind a screen in his underpants while eating pot noodle and typing this drivel, I really [zb] despair. We do not need this at this time.

Are you a CCP installed ‘moderator’.If you don’t like it don’t read the topic.Simple.

Benjie83:
Strange…

Now Figure this one,
My sis in law is ‘bank staff’ nurse for the NHS.
YET THE NHS HAVE LAID HER OFF■■?

Figure that one out…

Maybe not on message and they think she might say the wrong thing ?.

I’m 50/50 now after reading all this.

Fake virus to implement a power grab.

Or covering up an apocalypse situation to maintain order.

Either way my own view remains capitulation to CCP either way.

The idea that I’ll have to live through that capitulation under CCP rule is the really scary bit having grown up under the mantra of better dead than red and being happy to face that so long as I took the enemy Commy scum out with me.