Rjan:
Carryfast:
Rjan:
I honestly don’t follow what you’re rabbiting on about.Irish Republicanism and Indian nationalism are, of course, nationalist movements.
Hitler and Stalin share an authoritarianism, but they are scarcely similar in ideology or circumstance. Their pact was one of mutual convenience (as showed by its rapid dissolution)
You ‘don’t follow’ the too much to be coincidence Socialist connotations within both USSR and NSDAP.When according to your excuse Hitler didn’t actually want or mean that within the title of his NSDAP.Also by implication nor did Lenin/Stalin within USSR.While a joint invasion of a recognised Sovereign state on the basis of expanding their respective Regime’s is obviously more than ‘convenience’.While anti self determination authoritarianism is the mark of the Socialist ideology.The only difference in the case of NSDAP’s version v Stalin’s being their methodolgy.Make no mistake both regimes being the logical conclusion of Socialism.
While you admit that Collins’ and Ghandi’s motivation was Nationalism.
All proving the non existent link between Nationalism v ■■■■.So often laughably used by Socialists to push their,by definition, ‘authoritarian’,anti nation state agenda.In this case allied to Conservative Unionism/Federalism.
I wasn’t pushing the “nationalist v ■■■■” link on you. Hitler’s nationalism was clearly of a colonial sort (where Germany would be the spider at the centre of the web), not the secessionist/anti-colonial nationalism of the likes of Collins or Ghandi.
Hitler’s ideology had no socialist basis. He was violently anti-Marxist, and in practice the German war economy was scarcely as collectivised as Britain under Churchill, let alone Stalin.
And a great deal of Stalin’s motivation was Soviet self-determination, and freedom from external capitalist predation and troublemaking, which was very different to the problem in Germany which was not ideological conflict with the other European powers.
Here’s a clue if it ain’t the secessionist/sovereign self determination of Collins and Ghandi then it ain’t Nationalism.
While I think we all know that Soviet Socialism,like German Federalism in all its forms with the NSDAP’s 3rd Reich just being one of them,are both the total opposite to Nationalism.Both predictably clearly based on Anti Nation State collectivism and imposed Social Engineering policies.IE the definition of Socialism.