The UK will not be leaving the EU it can’t happen now
There was never ever going to be a agreement its impossible
Why because the good Friday agreement says there can’t be a border ever and the EU says there has to be
It was a lost cause from the beginning from start to present
For people who dont know there history if a border appears between North and South of ireland the good Friday agreement is nul and void
So what happens then well as they called it before the war starts all over again
That will never happen as much as the UK leaving the EU will never happen
Let battle commence.
Either Remainers go “oh well never mind” when Brexit doesn’t happen - or Brexiteers will.
Can’t see there being anything but “increasing anger” once our establishment admits that it had no intention of ever implementing Brexit, the last three years being nothing but total theatre to keep Farage away from Westminster…
The Libdems have already admitted this, Labour are very close to admitting the same…
It is just Boris we’re waiting for now…
He was hoping that we’d elect him with a big majority PRIOR to him actually delivering the goods, but the shot-themselves-in-the-foot “opposition” have now gone and f—ed that all up for him…
If there’s an election from any point AFTER October 31st - then I cannot see ANY party currently at Westminster doing anything bar “Losing seats”.
Surely that lets Brexit Party in as a torrent of fresh MPs?
The “Protest” will continue, regardless…
Winseer:
Let battle commence.Either Remainers go “oh well never mind” when Brexit doesn’t happen - or Brexiteers will.
Can’t see there being anything but “increasing anger” once our establishment admits that it had no intention of ever implementing Brexit, the last three years being nothing but total theatre to keep Farage away from Westminster…
The Libdems have already admitted this, Labour are very close to admitting the same…
It is just Boris we’re waiting for now…He was hoping that we’d elect him with a big majority PRIOR to him actually delivering the goods, but the shot-themselves-in-the-foot “opposition” have now gone and f—ed that all up for him…
If there’s an election from any point AFTER October 31st - then I cannot see ANY party currently at Westminster doing anything bar “Losing seats”.
Surely that lets Brexit Party in as a torrent of fresh MPs?
The “Protest” will continue, regardless…
The last three years were about disaster capitalists crashing the pound that’s all. Over £8billion has been bet on the pound shorting on Oct 31st.
Even the most vocal leavers on here are quieter now, maybe the penny is dropping?
An undeliverable project was sold to a section of the public by the public schoolboys, history will not be kind to them.
And you know that how exactly?
Have you looked at the Commitment of Traders Report regarding “Who’s massively short of Cable” (Pounds Sterling Currency) and who is short the Euro instead?
I’ve been a long-term Bear on the Euro, but have not been short of the Pound for a decade.
I’m sick of being told what gamblers are betting on - by people who don’t gamble, and therefore don’t even know what they are talking about!
Rees Mogg’s hedge funds, and others - are short the EURO rather than the Pound. On Brexit day, if the pound falls or rises against the Dollar - they make NOTHING.
If the Euro falls against the Pound or Dollar - they make a FORTUNE.
When people “speculate about speculators” - let’s have less of this paranoid fake news thing PLEASE!
The ones who stand to gain from anything downturning in the UK - are those who short things like Thomas Cook, rather than Sterling.
Thomas Cook was a notoriously badly run outfit that sold holidays payable at some point in the future in Euros, whilst taking payments from customers today in a weakening Sterling…
Thus, the only effect “Brexit” has had upon their fortunes - is that it left them over-exposed to “Brexit keep on being kicked further down the road” all the time.
Thomas Cook - were already on their knees back in March… That Brexit got delayed beyond 29th March - was the final straw for them, as they would have known as soon as the new financial year started that they were going to get utterly KILLED when having to settle up with foreign hoteliers, airlines, etc. in a now-more-expensive currency, thanks to the pound resuming it’s slide back to the bottom of it’s range following that “postponement of Brexit”.
Thomas Cook - will not be the LAST firm to come a cropper because of such “poor planning”, neither!
Come Brexit day, the pound itself - is likely to dip, before rallying now that there’s no need for those foreign (mostly EU-bank connected) speculators that have REALLY been short this market all this time - now close their positions out, which means BUYING BACK that sterling they were short of. That rallies the price, likely rather sharply to boot.
Hedge funds that are “betting on a hard, no-deal Brexit” on the other hand - will likely be sitting pat on Brexit Day, and awaiting the REAL action, which is the demise of the Eurocurrency, as it isn’t backed up with intrinsic assets much - is it? What do they have to sell to raise hard currency once their own currency loses the confidence of the wider world?
Just how much precious metal stocks are there in the various vaults of the various EU banks? Is there ANYTHING left?
…Perhaps an AUDIT should be carried out… We wouldn’t want to be taking Euros as “hard cash” - if they are printing it out like Bus Tickets, whilst it is backed by nothing but spare storage space in said bank vaults eh??
Mark my words: Aggressive Brexiteer Speculators are net NEUTRAL on the pound currenty, looking to “go long” come Brexit Day. They are already short the Euro, which has already peaked at aroune 93p, currently trading 88-89p, and very much a great value bet to SHORT at these lofty levels, what with massive levels of unemployment about the Eurozone, and Germany - the Euro Top Dog - about to go into Recession…
Investing in “EuroCurrency” right now, or “Going Long” of it at least - I rate as about as dangerous as trying to trade in Bitcoin right now.
“Dabble at your peril”.
Oddy enough too, if Thomas Cook had been “rescued” - it stood to make a complete recovery - but only from a completed Brexit.
That the Tories didn’t nationalize it - makes me suspcious that Boris Johnson might not have any INTENTION of completing Brexit any more than Theresa May did. I hope I’m wrong there of course, because it will be easier for the establishment to argue to the public “don’t vote Farage because Corbyn gets in if you do” - than the same argument said of “voting Tory” at the next election…
All the while Farage is riding high in the polls - the election will stay at June 2022. If Farage slips back, as he’s currently starting to do - the election possibility is for “between now and Christmas, but after October 31st”. it won’t be Boris calling that election though - will it? It’ll be Swinson!!
if they decide on a hard border and toss out the good friday agreement,then someone is going to offer the argument that the scummys on both sides that got let out,or are only legible for a maximum 2 year jail sentence are by definition obliged to be re arrested and jailed for the proper sentences to be applied…i can hear the bin lids banging already. 
Winseer:
And you know that how exactly?
Boris Johnson’s sister told the world…
Darkside:
Winseer:
And you know that how exactly?Boris Johnson’s sister told the world…
Boris Johnson’s sister is a notorious champagne socialist who wouldn’t know a contango in the markets from a backwardation. I bet she doesn’t even know what exchange one needs to go via to “short currency futures” at the public investor level - seeing as the City of London doesn’t do much “small piffling amounts” business in the 3-month cash markets…
I doubt if she has read any “committment of traders reports” of late as well, unless she’s currently working for the FT on the financial desk… 
nightline:
The UK will not be leaving the EU it can’t happen now
There was never ever going to be a agreement its impossible
Why because the good Friday agreement says there can’t be a border ever and the EU says there has to be
It was a lost cause from the beginning from start to present
For people who dont know there history if a border appears between North and South of ireland the good Friday agreement is nul and void
So what happens then well as they called it before the war starts all over again
That will never happen as much as the UK leaving the EU will never happen
Oh no! You’re not falling for this nonsense are you?
It is obvious a tactic by the silly foreigners to pretend they don’t like the deal we are generously offering them. We were told that “they need us, more than we need them” so we’ll be alright.
It really is the “easiest negotiations ever”, or would be If defeatist, 5th column, traitors like you didn’t talk it down.
“All upside with no downside” why won’t you admit it?
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I feel sorry for good old Boris: he really is having a hard time.
But on the upside for him, when it all goes ■■■■-up, he can point to people like you and say
“It was a good plan. We could have done it if we weren’t thwarted”.
Yep, he already has a plan to get re-elected no matter whether he gets any form of Brexit or not.
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And ref your later post.
“History will judge them harshly”.
I suspect that thinking historians may well judge the present idiots harshly, but some will still be tugging their forelocks, convinced that the shiney new, post Brexit, British Empire mk2 promised was stolen from them.
nightline:
The UK will not be leaving the EU it can’t happen now
There was never ever going to be a agreement its impossible
Why because the good Friday agreement says there can’t be a border ever and the EU says there has to be
It was a lost cause from the beginning from start to present
For people who dont know there history if a border appears between North and South of ireland the good Friday agreement is nul and void
So what happens then well as they called it before the war starts all over again
That will never happen as much as the UK leaving the EU will never happen
Let’s get this right Eire puts up a needless border and somehow that means the UK has trashed the Good Friday agreement.Here’s a clue the EU has no right to claim nation state status under international law so no right to claim any bs border between Eire and UK.As for customs clearance that has no need to be any different for UK Irish freight as non EU freight clearance in Ireland now.While if you really want to use the zbwit Sinn Fein rabble to hold us in the EU zb pile then zb the Good Friday agreement it’s Eire that broke it not us so let’s go to war bring it on.Bearing in mind the US can’t be seen to be supporting ‘terrorism’ now let alone when the terrorists in question are just Soviet Socialist useful idiots working for Juncker.
Carryfast:
nightline:
The UK will not be leaving the EU it can’t happen now
There was never ever going to be a agreement its impossible
Why because the good Friday agreement says there can’t be a border ever and the EU says there has to be
It was a lost cause from the beginning from start to present
For people who dont know there history if a border appears between North and South of ireland the good Friday agreement is nul and void
So what happens then well as they called it before the war starts all over again
That will never happen as much as the UK leaving the EU will never happenLet’s get this right Eire puts up a needless border and somehow that means the UK has trashed the Good Friday agreement.Here’s a clue the EU has no right to claim nation state status under international law so no right to claim any bs border between Eire and UK.As for customs clearance that has no need to be any different for UK Irish freight as non EU freight clearance in Ireland now.While if you really want to use the zbwit Sinn Fein rabble to hold us in the EU zb pile then zb the Good Friday agreement it’s Eire that broke it not us so let’s go to war bring it on.Bearing in mind the US can’t be seen to be supporting ‘terrorism’ now let alone when the terrorists in question are just Soviet Socialist useful idiots working for Juncker.
Keep your knickers on man it’s just the facts so according to yourself if the uk Leaves there will be no borders anywhere in Europe for anything or anybody from the UK
Do you ever read before you post both ways
Surly someone knew what would happen during the campaign before the vote or maybe not, even the DUP is getting nervous they are afraid the uk is going to dump them to the south
There was too much in the papers at the time about all the flat foots coming from France, running through the tunnel, hidden in trailers,
That’s what the man and woman on the street voted for, that’s all they seen on tv or the papers, spongers coming in to claim the free benefits, that’s how you got your leave vote
All this talk about “Threat to the GFA” actually means "If you do Brexit - we, Sinn Fein will re-deploy ALL formerlly stood-down IRA forces against the Tory Enemy".
Thus, the only way to avert the IRA overtaking ISIS for “collateral damage” - is to boot the tories, and replace them with civilization-ender Corbyn in all haste…
OR
We can just bloody well get Brexit done and dusted, and give us taxpayers our country back once and for all! 
nightline:
Carryfast:
nightline:
The UK will not be leaving the EU it can’t happen now
There was never ever going to be a agreement its impossible
Why because the good Friday agreement says there can’t be a border ever and the EU says there has to be
It was a lost cause from the beginning from start to present
For people who dont know there history if a border appears between North and South of ireland the good Friday agreement is nul and void
So what happens then well as they called it before the war starts all over again
That will never happen as much as the UK leaving the EU will never happenLet’s get this right Eire puts up a needless border and somehow that means the UK has trashed the Good Friday agreement.Here’s a clue the EU has no right to claim nation state status under international law so no right to claim any bs border between Eire and UK.As for customs clearance that has no need to be any different for UK Irish freight as non EU freight clearance in Ireland now.While if you really want to use the zbwit Sinn Fein rabble to hold us in the EU zb pile then zb the Good Friday agreement it’s Eire that broke it not us so let’s go to war bring it on.Bearing in mind the US can’t be seen to be supporting ‘terrorism’ now let alone when the terrorists in question are just Soviet Socialist useful idiots working for Juncker.
Keep your knickers on man it’s just the facts so according to yourself if the uk Leaves there will be no borders anywhere in Europe for anything or anybody from the UK
Do you ever read before you post both ways
Surly someone knew what would happen during the campaign before the vote or maybe not, even the DUP is getting nervous they are afraid the uk is going to dump them to the south
There was too much in the papers at the time about all the flat foots coming from France, running through the tunnel, hidden in trailers,
That’s what the man and woman on the street voted for, that’s all they seen on tv or the papers, spongers coming in to claim the free benefits, that’s how you got your leave vote
We knew that stopping Merkel’s millions didn’t mean putting up a wall around the coast with machine gun armed watchtowers.
As for the UK Irish border it worked/works fine with regs like the CTA before and after we both joined the EEC and how do you think that Eire clears non EU freight regardless.While that obviously didn’t/doesn’t mean no borders between UK mainland and any other EU state.
As for NI who gives a zb even if we did have to cut those muppets loose then better to dump them rather than let them keep us tied to the EU bearing in mind they voted to remain anyway.If they are that loyal to us then they can live here.
That’s exactly what will happen hard border means no agreement for uk also no more good Friday agreement so yes there will be army posts with machine guns
Why because the group’s that caused all the troubles before will do it all again in a heart beat
So maybe dumping them to the south is the only way to go if uk wants to leave eu
It’s a catch 22 situation