Electric car revolution coming to the UK if Labour wins

"The Labour party has pledged to support the uptake of electric vehicles with a range of schemes should the party come to power.

Rebecca Long-Bailey, Labour’s shadow business, energy and industrial strategy secretary and MP for Salford and Eccles, revealed a raft of planned measures designed to “jumpstart an electric car revolution”. These ideas include a plan to introduce a £2.5 million scrappage scheme for electric vehicle (EV) buyers and £3.6 billion of investment in charging infrastructure, as well as ideas to “strengthen” the UK car industry."

“The planned scrappage scheme would see drivers offered £2,000 to scrap petrol or diesel vehicles that are more than 10 years old, while Labour says the investment in charging points would be enough to charge 21.5 million electric cars. The party has also promised to invest £2 billion in three new “gigafactories” designed to make electric car batteries and £500 million into four metal reprocessing plants to reprocess cobalt and rare earth minerals used in batteries”. insideevs.com/news/373670/ev-re … uk-labour/

lancpudn:
"The Labour party has pledged to support the uptake of electric vehicles with a range of schemes should the party come to power.

Rebecca Long-Bailey, Labour’s shadow business, energy and industrial strategy secretary and MP for Salford and Eccles, revealed a raft of planned measures designed to “jumpstart an electric car revolution”. These ideas include a plan to introduce a £2.5 million scrappage scheme for electric vehicle (EV) buyers and £3.6 billion of investment in charging infrastructure, as well as ideas to “strengthen” the UK car industry."

“The planned scrappage scheme would see drivers offered £2,000 to scrap petrol or diesel vehicles that are more than 10 years old, while Labour says the investment in charging points would be enough to charge 21.5 million electric cars. The party has also promised to invest £2 billion in three new “gigafactories” designed to make electric car batteries and £500 million into four metal reprocessing plants to reprocess cobalt and rare earth minerals used in batteries”. insideevs.com/news/373670/ev-re … uk-labour/

Labour’s nuclear fuelled utopia.Anyway if anyone is thinking of taking £2,000 to scrap a Ferrari 550 I’ll offer them £2,500 for it instead.Labour zbwits.

Suppose they’ll find it by taxing the rich again. If people can afford 30000 for a new car why have they got a scrap one

similar to previous scrappage deals,then once again the lemming like gullible public will think they are getting 2k whereas in reality they are getting nothing due to the dealers markup and the finance figures.
no matter what you see on paper,then all you are getting for your old car,is roughly the price it will return after it flung through the auction,or in this case whatever the scrappy returns assuming they dont actually just export them out the back door.
no matter what deal you think you got,then the reality is that your car is worth to the trader,whatever the auction price is and not a penny more.

I watched Angela Rip-off this morning and her problems with an electric vehicle, not enough charging points, false distance estimates, different amps, volts and charges, incompatible cars, cables, computers, if you leave one county for another you need to set up a different direct debit, and my missus only ever leaves enough fuel to get to the petrol station, so I can see me camping there overnight [emoji23]

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All the usual nonsense will be spouted , but the reality will be , where will all the charging points be built on our motorway sevices , at present you refuel a vehicle in seconds as opposed to hours to recharge a battery .
The investment to update our energy supply will cost many many billions of £s .
It would take at least 50 years to get running .20 years of planning enquiries just to decide where to build ,20 years to decide on how to power it and at least 10 years to actually build it . By which time they will have discovered the the system is nowhere near as eco friendly has they would like us to believe .

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grumpyken52:
All the usual nonsense will be spouted , but the reality will be , where will all the charging points be built on our motorway sevices , at present you refuel a vehicle in seconds as opposed to hours to recharge a battery .
The investment to update our energy supply will cost many many billions of £s .
It would take at least 50 years to get running .20 years of planning enquiries just to decide where to build ,20 years to decide on how to power it and at least 10 years to actually build it . By which time they will have discovered the the system is nowhere near as eco friendly has they would like us to believe .

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I think it will be a mute point as to what they plan on bringing in by 2035! MP’s want to phase out personal car use :open_mouth: airqualitynews.com/2019/08/22/p … s-mps-say/

There’s a upcoming Environment Bill due before the end of the year and 80% or four in five council authorities have illegal levels of toxic pollution. I fear they will wield the big stick.
publications.parliament.uk/pa/c … tAnchor075

lancpudn:

grumpyken52:
All the usual nonsense will be spouted , but the reality will be , where will all the charging points be built on our motorway sevices , at present you refuel a vehicle in seconds as opposed to hours to recharge a battery .
The investment to update our energy supply will cost many many billions of £s .
It would take at least 50 years to get running .20 years of planning enquiries just to decide where to build ,20 years to decide on how to power it and at least 10 years to actually build it . By which time they will have discovered the the system is nowhere near as eco friendly has they would like us to believe .

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I think it will be a mute point as to what they plan on bringing in by 2035! MP’s want to phase out personal car use :open_mouth: airqualitynews.com/2019/08/22/p … s-mps-say/

There’s a upcoming Environment Bill due before the end of the year and 80% or four in five council authorities have illegal levels of toxic pollution. I fear they will wield the big stick.
publications.parliament.uk/pa/c … tAnchor075

Proof that elections will be rigged from now on these dictatorial Commy zb’s think they can do whatever they like with no voter backlash at the polls.It’s like a North Korean nightmare.

Fear not fellows, we’ve been there before with three identikit political parties all reading from the same hymnsheet with the greenies spouting idiocy from the sidelines, before the lunatics can put the final match to the funeral pyre of GB Ltd, someone will do a Farage and come up with a sensible alternative strategy and party…no they won’t gain power because only the elite are allowed to hold power in this country, but they will take enough votes that just as Cameron had to offer the referendum to stop UKIP destroying the dead tory party, something similar will happen again.

Haven’t you all noticed the backlash growing in the western world, helped to a large degree by the common sense national survival rulers of the visegrad group of nations and the very good sense spoken by Putin, the lefties the climate scam the open borders fetishists and antifas masked boot bullies are no longer the only voices being heard…ok they are if all you read watch or listen to is the bbc or other sources of lefty/liberal propaganda…but increasingly being heard loud and clear are those who do not agree.

Labour and the left in general should be encouraged enthusiastically to tell us more about their visions of the coming free funded socialist utopia, if Blair can be recruited to assist them in this lunacy that should put the mockers on them ever gaining power for the rest of the century.

Juddian:
Fear not fellows, we’ve been there before with three identikit political parties all reading from the same hymnsheet with the greenies spouting idiocy from the sidelines, before the lunatics can put the final match to the funeral pyre of GB Ltd, someone will do a Farage and come up with a sensible alternative strategy and party…no they won’t gain power because only the elite are allowed to hold power in this country, but they will take enough votes that just as Cameron had to offer the referendum to stop UKIP destroying the dead tory party, something similar will happen again.

Haven’t you all noticed the backlash growing in the western world, helped to a large degree by the common sense national survival rulers of the visegrad group of nations and the very good sense spoken by Putin, the lefties the climate scam the open borders fetishists and antifas masked boot bullies are no longer the only voices being heard…ok they are if all you read watch or listen to is the bbc or other sources of lefty/liberal propaganda…but increasingly being heard loud and clear are those who do not agree.

Labour and the left in general should be encouraged enthusiastically to tell us more about their visions of the coming free funded socialist utopia, if Blair can be recruited to assist them in this lunacy that should put the mockers on them ever gaining power for the rest of the century.

Ironically there will be many of these brainwashed fools enthusiastically chucking out their gas boilers and cookers and replacing the family car with an expensive electric toy or use trains and buses for every journey to follow the all electric nuclear utopian dream.Until the first big electric bill added to the rail pass and bus fares or with its added road fuel tax component arrives on the mat.Followed by the inevitable nuclear power disaster.Then see all the Blairite faithful running for the exit saying it was nothing to do with them.

Take a visit to Lewrockwell.com for a taste of deepstate billionaire boys club freakshow,in the form of Elon Musk,a very,very disturbing creature,no doubt psilosybinic micro-dosed to the gills.Apparently wants to sprinkle the cosmos with thousands of its wretched satellites,as well as attempting to extinguish the trusty glass mirrors we’ve used successfully for donkeys :confused: ie,banning them from Tesla cars :imp: How this w@nkstain has the gall to appropriate the name of a humanitarian genius like Nichola Tesla into its planet plundering ‘business’ model is beyond parody,but then a world that garlands fellow deepstate shysters like Kissinger and drone-bomber specialist Obama with Nobel ‘PEACE’ prizes ffs,why am i surprised i ask in all innocence?

Further reading reveals he’s ‘petitioning’ bless :angry: ,the government to essentially ban mirrors because…the carbon reducing effects of mirror drag could be eliminated by ipad type mirrors similar to the new Actros deal(embelleshing a tad) :unamused: .Just shows how these billionaire creeps have hijacked the climate change gubbins directly to their personal bank accounts,while assisting with the spade-work of building the techno prison camp,oh so stealthily around humanity.
I don’t even believe they’re charismatic pioneering visionaries either,more like bloodline stooges,Bezos,Zuckberg,Branson ad nauseam.
Making billions ought to be seen as an assault on planetary finite resources by these disgusting cockroaches.

manalishi:
Further reading reveals he’s ‘petitioning’ bless :angry: ,the government to essentially ban mirrors because…the carbon reducing effects of mirror drag could be eliminated by ipad type mirrors similar to the new Actros deal(embelleshing a tad) :unamused: .Just shows how these billionaire creeps have hijacked the climate change gubbins directly to their personal bank accounts,while assisting with the spade-work of building the techno prison camp,oh so stealthily around humanity.
I don’t even believe they’re charismatic pioneering visionaries either,more like bloodline stooges,Bezos,Zuckberg,Branson ad nauseam.
Making billions ought to be seen as an assault on planetary finite resources by these disgusting cockroaches.

Let me guess he will supply the replacement mirror technology.It’s clear that lobby to outlaw everything,except that which is to the advantage of our product,is the default corporate MO now.All now done under the heading of stopping ‘climate change’ which is their own invention used to justify the scam.

Carryfast:

manalishi:
Further reading reveals he’s ‘petitioning’ bless :angry: ,the government to essentially ban mirrors because…the carbon reducing effects of mirror drag could be eliminated by ipad type mirrors similar to the new Actros deal(embelleshing a tad) :unamused: .Just shows how these billionaire creeps have hijacked the climate change gubbins directly to their personal bank accounts,while assisting with the spade-work of building the techno prison camp,oh so stealthily around humanity.
I don’t even believe they’re charismatic pioneering visionaries either,more like bloodline stooges,Bezos,Zuckberg,Branson ad nauseam.
Making billions ought to be seen as an assault on planetary finite resources by these disgusting cockroaches.

Let me guess he will supply the replacement mirror technology.It’s clear that lobby to outlaw everything,except that which is to the advantage of our product,is the default corporate MO now.All now done under the heading of stopping ‘climate change’ which is their own invention used to justify the scam.

Nail on head dude.Nail on head.

Wheel Nut:
I watched Angela Rip-off this morning and her problems with an electric vehicle, not enough charging points, false distance estimates, different amps, volts and charges, incompatible cars, cables, computers, if you leave one county for another you need to set up a different direct debit, and my missus only ever leaves enough fuel to get to the petrol station, so I can see me camping there overnight [emoji23]

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Spend a lot of time pondering over these subjects whenever I see Tesla’s etc. in traffic (how do screens in those cars not get counted as a distraction?), so I’m currently thinking of the following issues:

Not enough public charging points but what about private ones. I don’t have a driveway, nor room for a driveway, so how can I charge my car at home? Or maybe they think people who don’t have driveways shouldn’t have cars - making use of public transport instead. I would welcome any options they can suggest for public transport for 20 miles with my start times of 2-4am?

Roads that power the vehicle have also being mentioned - and being trialled at the moment in Sweden with ideas to expand it to more of the road network who of course will have much less demand on such a system compared to the UK. Considering our governments track record for doing the job properly with proper investment (i.e. smart motorways etc.) this seems a pipe dream.

On the subject of charging points - what is the deal with the ones in company car parks? Do the employees have to pay to draw electric from them?

Electric Trucks are also being talked about - considering the difficulty in some services of even getting a space to have you break at certain times, never mind parking up overnight for charging. What happens if you can only make it to a lay-by. Mind you, probably will be OK to exceed drivers hours if its to recharge - as usual - safety when it suits.

Tesla charging points you say, just one of many US versions.

It’s green energy you know, well the Diesel generator’s green :unamused:

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Labour chat guff fory any poxy voter they can grab.
There is zero infrastructor to replace diesel or petrol cars for complete electric motors in the UK.It will take years to get anywhere near to sorting out the infrastructure.

Juddian:
Tesla charging points you say, just one of many US versions.

It’s green energy you know, well the Diesel generator’s green :unamused:

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Look on the bright side at least the whining heap can be refuelled using red diesel in that case.It’ll help to pay for the profits made by selling an electric toy at a proper car price. :laughing:

Beetlejuice:
Labour chat guff fory any poxy voter they can grab.
There is zero infrastructor to replace diesel or petrol cars for complete electric motors in the UK.It will take years to get anywhere near to sorting out the infrastructure.

Virgin media are getting in the act of BEV charging! They’re going to turn their 40,000+ street furniture/cabinets into charging stations, The new network will operate under the name Virgin Media Park & Charge.

lancpudn:

Beetlejuice:
Labour chat guff fory any poxy voter they can grab.
There is zero infrastructor to replace diesel or petrol cars for complete electric motors in the UK.It will take years to get anywhere near to sorting out the infrastructure.

Virgin media are getting in the act of BEV charging! They’re going to turn their 40,000+ street furniture/cabinets into charging stations, The new network will operate under the name Virgin Media Park & Charge.

Stories on better deals for Virgin internet users too.
Allow your home hub open for public access Wi-Fi and 10% off.
Allow e-car users to plug in to your 3-point socket 15% off.
Rumours you have to provide coffee while they wait are untrue.