Trade deal with the US after Brexit

Franglais:

OVLOV JAY:
We will only get a free trade deal with the u.s if we get a free trade deal with the EU. So there will be no need for any chlorinated chicken (even though we currently eat home grown chicken, I’ll allow that scaremongering story for the purpose of debate) as we will carry on our trade in the same way as we currently do with the EU

The problem with the chicken isn’t that it’s chlorine washed. Some of our supermarket salads are chlorine washed, no problems.
The chlorine washing is needed for US chicken, but not our chicken because of differences in raising, slaughtering, and butchering.
US chickens are raised much more intensively than in the EU and UK. They are not butchered as carefully as here.
For these reasons it’s necessary to wash the US carcases. That isn’t necessary here.
There is controversy over whether or not there is more food poisonings there or here.
But ignoring safety (!) the US methods produce cheaper chicken meat. By using lower welfare cages for the birds, and differing slaughterhouse standards they can undercut UK farmers.
That is the problem: should we allow birds raised in conditions illegal here into our market? Should US farmers put our farmers out of business because they use what we mostly think of as unacceptably cruel and unhygenic methods?
Is it ok to contaminate meat with faeces so long as it’s washed off?
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And in a Free Trade deal they will be free to send all their chickens here…
If not it ain’t Free Trade is it?

The way people bang on about “Chlorine washed” when the people moaning are those who don’t even EAT chicken - is like saying that “Microsoft Hoovers - the only Microsoft Product that doesn’t ■■■■” or "The only thing not Chlorine Washed in our shops - is Domestos! "

In a free trade environment, people will choose to buy the same quality goods from the supplier that can put sell it to us for less than the other supplier. For all we know, Chlorine Washed Chicken - might be really expensive compared to our home-grown East Anglia variety, for instance. Perhaps that price is pushed still higher - because for some “Chlorine Washed” might be an acquired taste?

I happen to LOVE a chippy right after I’ve got home from a swimming session for example… There’s something about having a nose full of Chlorine - that just makes a chippy taste even better than usual. :blush:

Then there’s all this “unsold lamb that would have to be skipped” - No need. Just sell it on to UK buyers on the cheap, with the government ready to step in IF IF IF any of the Lambing farms - go ■■■■-up.

Why do we need to buy Strawberries from any EU member state (or further afield, come to that…) when we surely are self-sufficient in Strawberries, albeit in season to get them at their cheapest?

What can we NOT grow at places like “Thanet Earth”? Citrus? - We’re already growing our own Wine Grapes in this country now, and have done for some time…

How much food are we actually ALREADY not able to source from the EU■■?

The EU would have a problem with their growing mountain of unsold food, as as past experience tells us - the EU are RUBBISH at getting rid of their food mountains ALREADY.
If they cannot sell to the UK any longer, because we’ve already re-sourced from elsewhere - then the EU economy is well and truly f—ed.

The EU should be begging us “not to leave” and offering us massive concessions to stay - NOT offering to bugger us with a slightly less knobbly stick with blunter nails embedded in it, as they have been doing these past three years…