What is the EU

There’s a lot of talk about the EU, not just leave or remain, but what it actually is. I don’t want to go too deeply into Brexit or remain because it’s a boring subject, but political science and ideological theory is what I used to do for a living. Let’s just do a quick explanation on what the EU is, because being a part of it affects all our lives.

The boring part: Those of us who are older will remember the heady days of the 70s as Britain entered a class war, in which strikes, demonstrations and walk outs were the norm. During the 80s Thatcher year’s, the British left took a back seat and rediscovered an Italian named Gramsci. Gramsci discovered that Marx was wrong, it wasn’t about class, but culture. No more strikes, no more workers of the world unite; the left embraced cultural Marxism, also known as identity politics with multiculturalism, diversity and equality and political correctness to silence dissent. The minorities, gays, feminists, criminals … replaced the workers and became the new revolutionaries.

It is not a coincidence that the EU began to expand politically shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union, with the same top down rule, unelected commissioners, five year plans and in their own words, a ‘democratic deficiency.’ The EU system, like the previous Soviet model was never designed to be voted out, it’s a power grab by the elite politicians who run it and that’s what you can see as leading British parliamentary politicians try everything possible to keep one foot in the EU door. It’s also why the millennial generation voted en-masse to remain believing they’ve just discovered a promised utopia. They’re not the first generation to have been duped and probably not the last.

For those who want to know more the definitive documentary on what the EU actually is watch BREXIT the Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YTTyQKyJQ . For those with less time a short article I wrote several years ago, Brexit European Union (PDF) BREXIT European Union | John V Asia Teacher - Academia.edu(no download, scroll down to read).

Is there a democracy deficit in the EU?
Yes.
So tell us about a system where there is no democracy deficit?
You say that millenials see the EU as a Utopia?
Don’t many Brexiteers equally see us leaving as a solution to all problems?
Alike Marx we have Trump, Farage and others identifying complex problems but only offering simplistic solutions that are doomed to fail.

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There’s no such thing as perfect democracy but the further from the location of the people the democratic process becomes the less democratic it becomes.

I’ve believed for some time that the EU is a near fascist state in the making and Pat Condell seems to feel the same way.

In all societies there has to be a consensus, a general agreement based on majority norms which contain the values which we call culture. It’s why we have communities and borders that have often taken centuries to develop. It’s why Manchester is different from Liverpool and Britain from France. It’s that culture which makes all countries unique in their own special way. You can call it an identity, or a belonging, some call it ‘roots.’ It’s more than just tribal, which is why in centuries past exile was one of the most feared punishments.

The idea behind the EU is to strip away national identity by removing cultural differences. As culture is learned, the theory is that it can also be unlearned and we all become citizens of the world characters. Open borders and the Schengen treaty wasn’t an accident. Yet we can’t unlearn culture, it’s something that is ingrained in us and although we can accept others we can’t become like them, or they like us. In practice, diversity arising from multiculturalism isn’t a strength, it’s a weakness which self-segregates and why we have ‘no go’ areas and ghettos each containing its own culture. You can’t politically socially engineer (change) populations, which is the hallmark of failure in every communist society.

The problem with democracy is that it wasn’t designed for mass-transient societies. The nearest we can get is allowing each person to vote every few years for the type of society they want to live in. ‘Democratic deficiency’ is the opposite, allowing a small group of unelected European commissioners decide British law and being unable to vote them out. It shouldn’t be forgotten that 2016 wasn’t a parliamentary election, it was a referendum and as Britain has a parliamentary democracy, the final say belongs to the politicians which is why it’s taking so long to implement.

So, how would we fare in a post EU era? The same as we did for hundreds of years before it. We would begin to trade with other countries like Switzerland and the US, without restrictions. On an Island surrounded by the sea, the fishing industry would return without quotas from Brussels. The 20% European VAT tax would be abolished … and as a net contributor the UK would save millions every year. The EU will eventually collapse of its own accord, but meanwhile there is nothing for Britain to be gained by aligning itself with economic basket cases like Ireland, Portugal and Greece.

Grandpa:
In all societies there has to be a consensus, a general agreement based on majority norms which contain the values which we call culture. It’s why we have communities and borders that have often taken centuries to develop. It’s why Manchester is different from Liverpool and Britain from France. It’s that culture which makes all countries unique in their own special way. You can call it an identity, or a belonging, some call it ‘roots.’ It’s more than just tribal, which is why in centuries past exile was one of the most feared punishments.

The idea behind the EU is to strip away national identity by removing cultural differences. As culture is learned, the theory is that it can also be unlearned and we all become citizens of the world characters. Open borders and the Schengen treaty wasn’t an accident. Yet we can’t unlearn culture, it’s something that is ingrained in us and although we can accept others we can’t become like them, or they like us. In practice, diversity arising from multiculturalism isn’t a strength, it’s a weakness which self-segregates and why we have ‘no go’ areas and ghettos each containing its own culture. You can’t politically socially engineer (change) populations, which is the hallmark of failure in every communist society.

The problem with democracy is that it wasn’t designed for mass-transient societies. The nearest we can get is allowing each person to vote every few years for the type of society they want to live in. ‘Democratic deficiency’ is the opposite, allowing a small group of unelected European commissioners decide British law and being unable to vote them out. It shouldn’t be forgotten that 2016 wasn’t a parliamentary election, it was a referendum and as Britain has a parliamentary democracy, the final say belongs to the politicians which is why it’s taking so long to implement.

So, how would we fare in a post EU era? The same as we did for hundreds of years before it. We would begin to trade with other countries like Switzerland and the US, without restrictions. On an Island surrounded by the sea, the fishing industry would return without quotas from Brussels. The 20% European VAT tax would be abolished … and as a net contributor the UK would save millions every year. The EU will eventually collapse of its own accord, but meanwhile there is nothing for Britain to be gained by aligning itself with economic basket cases like Ireland, Portugal and Greece.

“The idea behind the EU is to strip out national identity by suppressing cultural differences”.
Really? I hadn’t noticed that. Maybe you can support that assertion?
Maybe you think that common regulations mean lack of cultural differences? As you have already suggested there are differences between Manchester and Liverpool despite both being governed from London.

“In practise diversity arising from multiculturalism isn’t a strength it’s a weakness which self segregates and is why we have no go areas and ghettos”
Any support or evidence for that assertion?

“The problem with democracy is that it wasn’t designed for mass transient societies”
Shouldn’t rail workers get a vote too?
:wink:

“EU Commissioners decide British law”.
No. Factually wrong.

“Unelected Commissioners”
Are there for a fixed term. They are put up by the elected National Governments of member countries. They reflect the political leanings of the national party in power at the start of their term. They propose laws, which are voted on by elected MEPs.

– post EU we would trade as we did for hundreds of years before–
How? Send out the gun boats and win another Empire? Go and tell the ex Commonwealth countries that all their current deals are void because we’re back again?

“20% EU vat tax ended”
Yeah…before the EU we had no vat. But we had purchase tax and other taxes.

“Net contributions to the EU”.
Yes on accounts of just plus and minus we do pay more than we receive. But that takes no account of benefits to trade by being on the EU. When we leave, almost all economists say our trade will suffer. We will pay less out too.
It’s a bit like taking a big pay cut, but being really happy because you’re saving ten bob in taxes.

Edit…typo

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The EU is just another flawed Federalist project like all those that have gone before from the Roman takeover of Europe to the failed Yugoslav state not to mention the UK at least in Ireland.The common theme being a paranoia regarding secession,abhorrence of self determination and the local democracy which goes with it and a willingness to eventually use force to impose its will on anyone rebelling against it.Might as well include the hi jacking of the original US Confederation as part of that agenda resulting in the conflaguration and casualties sustained between 1861-65 and an ongoing Federalist v anti Federalist argument there which still hasn’t gone away.

It’s obvious that,like the US,the intention of the ‘EU’,from the point of view of Europeans,was always that of a Confederation of Sovereign states.Which just like the US constitution,Yugoslav Federation and the Soviet Union and Roman Empire etc etc has been hijacked by a corrupt elite with its own obvious agenda.

Franglais:
“EU Commissioners decide British law”.
No. Factually wrong.

“Unelected Commissioners”
Are there for a fixed term. They are put up by the elected National Governments of member countries. They reflect the political leanings of the national party in power at the start of their term. They propose laws, which are voted on by elected MEPs.

– post EU we would trade as we did for hundreds of years before–
How? Send out the gun boats and win another Empire? Go and tell the ex Commonwealth countries that all their current deals are void because we’re back again?

“20% EU vat tax ended”
Yeah…before the EU we had no vat. But we had purchase tax and other taxes.

“Net contributions to the EU”.
Yes on accounts of just plus and minus we do pay more than we receive. But that takes no account of benefits to trade by being on the EU. When we leave, almost all economists say our trade will suffer. We will pay less out too.
It’s a bit like taking a big pay cut, but being really happy because you’re saving ten bob in taxes.

Edit…typo

Let’s get this right an elected politician/s here delegate their supposed democratic mandate to unelected politburo member/s and you reckon that’s democratic.So the local MP says thanks for the vote now I’m subbing the job out to my mate who you didn’t vote for but that’s fine.Does that mean it’s ok for Gerard Batten to actually delegate his MEP role to TR in that case.Yeah right.

As for the idea that a net trade deficit takes no account of the ‘benefits’ of trade by being in the EU.Really tell us how that works assuming you’ve got the slightest idea of the definition of a net deficit.IE the word ‘net’ obviously factors in all the so called ‘benefits’ in the form of our exports v the all too real liabilities in the form of our imports.But you really can’t be that stupid which can only make you a liar. :unamused:

@Franglais
Unless you understand what cultural Marxism is, you’ll never grasp its effects. If you haven’t noticed the huge demographic cultural changes in Western Europe over the past 20 years, you must be the only person not to have done so.

Common change regulations have nothing to do with culture, but combined form part of the experiment to dumb down populations to their lowest common denominator. It’s how the Soviet Union worked, it’s how the EU works. You haven’t noticed the ghettos and no go areas that have sprung up in the past couple of decades? The violence, the bombings, the racial segregation?

Re: The commissioners. You’re part right and part wrong. They are not elected by the people, their appointment is a political one and part of the democratic argument is that MEPs can’t change their decisions. It’s where the self-defined EU term ‘democratic deficiency’ stems from. It’s why increasingly the EU is seen as a political dictatorship rather than the previous economic block. You’re always going to struggle to try to defend a system that admits it’s not democratic by trying to pretend it is and ignoring the fact that it’s run by a top-down political elite. A system so far removed from democracy that the people can’t change it is bound to eventually fail. You can see that now in the popular protests by the Yellow Vests in France and Pegida in Germany, plus the Brexit referendum. Switzerland and Norway who are not in the EU are doing perfectly well without it.

The EU has already warned that there is no room in the EU for nation states. If Brexit doesn’t happen this gullible generation will learn its lesson just like the others before it. If you haven’t time to watch the link that I gave to Brexit the Movie above, try listening to the old former communists warning you what the EU is in under five minutes.

‘I have lived in your future and it didn’t work’ – Vladimir Bukovsky

Grandpa:
@Franglais
Unless you understand what cultural Marxism is, you’ll never grasp its effects. If you haven’t noticed the huge demographic cultural changes in Western Europe over the past 20 years, you must be the only person not to have done so.

Common change regulations have nothing to do with culture, but combined form part of the experiment to dumb down populations to their lowest common denominator. It’s how the Soviet Union worked, it’s how the EU works. You haven’t noticed the ghettos and no go areas that have sprung up in the past couple of decades? The violence, the bombings, the racial segregation?

Re: The commissioners. You’re part right and part wrong. They are not elected by the people, their appointment is a political one and part of the democratic argument is that MEPs can’t change their decisions. It’s where the self-defined EU term ‘democratic deficiency’ stems from. It’s why increasingly the EU is seen as a political dictatorship rather than the previous economic block. You’re always going to struggle to try to defend a system that admits it’s not democratic by trying to pretend it is and ignoring the fact that it’s run by a top-down political elite. A system so far removed from democracy that the people can’t change it is bound to eventually fail. You can see that now in the popular protests by the Yellow Vests in France and Pegida in Germany, plus the Brexit referendum. Switzerland and Norway who are not in the EU are doing perfectly well without it.

The EU has already warned that there is no room in the EU for nation states. If Brexit doesn’t happen this gullible generation will learn its lesson just like the others before it. If you haven’t time to watch the link that I gave to Brexit the Movie above, try listening to the old former communists warning you what the EU is in under five minutes.

‘I have lived in your future and it didn’t work’ – Vladimir Bukovsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tn2wbT5L9w

Are you a professional politician?
You have avoided answering many queries and critisim made of your previous post but introduce new themes you wish to get across.
I’ll not persue my previous questions, but assume any others reading will also your failures.
Regarding the EU system of governance you again point out perceived weaknesses but fail to suggest better alternatives. Is the UK system so much better? Are we all perfectly happy with the way in which our MPs carry out our wishes?
Are you aware of the way Cabinet Ministers have sometimes been other than elected MPs? (Mandelson?)
The UK gov has also appointed “Czars” notably in regards the drug problems with sweeping powers. That argued that being non-elected they would act independently of short term ‘ballot box fears’.
I don’t say that’s all bad or all good, just point it out.
You state that MEPs cannot change the decisions of Commissioners.
MEPs vote on laws proposed by Commissioners.
They do not vote on day to day decision making, it’s true. Exactly parallel to UK Gov ministers running departments, and making decisions but proposing law to be voted on.
Neither are perfect systems, and you don’t propose any better.

“Cultural Marxism”. If you care to tell us all what you are talking of, maybe we can discuss it. If you cannot define it, then it would be difficult to have a rational discussion about it.

“Part of the experiment to dumb down populations to the lowest common denominator…it’s how the EU works”.
Powerful words. Be good to use phraseology such as that in a dystopian novel. Care to explain what it actually means and how it is implememted?

“Ghettos and no go areas sprung up in the last couple of decades”
Nope. I ain’t noticed them.

“The violence, the bombings”
In the UK.
2000s. Including the London train bombings of course.
5 bombings.
55 deaths.
2001 to present.
9 bombings.
45 deaths notably including those killed by car attacks.
In the 1970s there were in the UK 58 terrorist deaths and 40 bombings.
Recent events stay fresher in our memories.
Newer media with rolling news and dramatic camera photos makes for stronger images. Our perception isn’t always accurate.

“Huge demographic changes”
Since they are huge, you’ll easily fond us the facts and figures as to what you’re talking about?

Norway and Switzerland seem ok. Yep. Both do well with their close association with the EU.
Norway is in EFTA EEA and Schengen. It’s population of 5 or 6 million is helped financially by it’s large production of oil and gas.
Switzerland also had close ties with the EU: it’s in EFTA and is part of the Schengen area.
Would they do better or worse if they had closer or looser ties? I don’t know. Probably no one does.
Daresay some will swear they know the answers and explain how… with emotive rhetoric but without any supporting facts.

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Franglais:
Regarding the EU system of governance you again point out perceived weaknesses but fail to suggest better alternatives. Is the UK system so much better? Are we all perfectly happy with the way in which our MPs carry out our wishes?
Are you aware of the way Cabinet Ministers have sometimes been other than elected MPs? (Mandelson?)
The UK gov has also appointed “Czars” notably in regards the drug problems with sweeping powers. That argued that being non-elected they would act independently of short term ‘ballot box fears’.
I don’t say that’s all bad or all good, just point it out.
You state that MEPs cannot change the decisions of Commissioners.
MEPs vote on laws proposed by Commissioners.
They do not vote on day to day decision making, it’s true. Exactly parallel to UK Gov ministers running departments, and making decisions but proposing law to be voted on.
Neither are perfect systems, and you don’t propose any better.

45 deaths notably including those killed by car attacks.
In the 1970s there were in the UK 58 terrorist deaths and 40 bombings.
Recent events stay fresher in our memories.
Newer media with rolling news and dramatic camera photos makes for stronger images. Our perception isn’t always accurate.
Norway and Switzerland seem ok. Yep. Both do well with their close association with the EU.
Norway is in EFTA EEA and Schengen. It’s population of 5 or 6 million is helped financially by it’s large production of oil and gas.
Switzerland also had close ties with the EU: it’s in EFTA and is part of the Schengen area.
Would they do better or worse if they had closer or looser ties? I don’t know. Probably no one does.
Daresay some will swear they know the answers and explain how… with emotive rhetoric but without any supporting facts.

Firstly we do know that the idea of the Nation State and the more localised democracy that goes with it is ‘better’ just on the basis that although Blair might have liked to think he was a tinpot dictator he was finally removed from office by the ballot box on the basis of a UK election.Unlike your son of a ■■■■ mate Juncker could possibly be.

On that note we have been to your future before and the vicious Roman Empire to the loss of life caused by Federal Aggression in the former failed Yugoslav state,not to mention 19th Century USA,and the Soviet Union allied with the 3rd Reich ( German Socialist Federalism ) wanting to take over Europe,both during and after WW2,was the result.

As for IrIsh terrorism in the form of the Provo/continuity IRA oh wait a bunch of pretend Nationalists who don’t do the idea that with Nationalism comes the responsibility to recognise the self determination of others.In this case the right of Ulster to exist.Let alone wanting to replace UK rule in Eire with EU rule instead.

Cultural Marxism indeed.

I have now seen that short YouTube piece.
It’s difficult to address all the points from a single small screen phone, but I’ll try to look at a few.

“Self appointed” A repetition of previous misunderstandings and misinformation of the EU system. I invite anyone to do a bit of research themselves into how the EU functions. Once they get beyond the headlines in certain newspapers they will see how it works. Not perfectly, but nothing is perfect.
“They appoint each other” equally bllx.
“Cannot be removed” They can be voted out by the EU Parliament.
“Bullying and coertian”. What, Where, When?

And all followed up with the classic:
-political correctness gone mad-
argument comparing the banning of hate speech, to censorship of legitimate debate, and in this case “the gulag”.

Very good piece overall. Radical and unsubstantiated claims delivered in a calm rational voice. Make up for the lack of evidence by telling us this is a person hated by the USSR. We then assume everything he says is factual and correct. (My enemy’s, enemy).
Being a bespectacled older gentlemen he achieves greater kudos of course. Nice background of leather chairs and soft lighting. Gives him an air of authority, and trustworthiness, just like the intellectual elit… whoops. Good effort though.

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"The EU is the old Soviet Union dressed in Western clothes”

(President Gorbachev)

@Franglais

I’m not really here to argue Franglais. For the past decade I’ve taught English and social science, which includes political science. I take for granted that people discussing politics will have a fair understanding of terminology and ideologies, although I’m willing to help them along. If someone isn’t aware of the changing demographics due to mass-immigration producing self-segregated ghettos, or the difference between the former Economic Community and the current political union, or don’t know what cultural Marxism is, we really are at a basic stage and what we get is a yes it is and no it isn’t debate.
There really is no excuse for not being aware of both what the EU is, or the agenda of many politicians in the west. This is cultural Marxism. The initial chapters started as a book project, but I was too busy and turned it into an essay: (PDF) Cultural Marxism - Social Chaos | John V Asia Teacher - Academia.edu

After you’ve read that (and understood it), then watch the previously recommended Brexit the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YTTyQKyJQ

The former will tell you what is happening throughout the western world and the second will show you how the European Marxist elite took over the EU after the fall of the USSR and the consequences.

The EU like cultural Marxism is designed to mislead a gullible younger generation, which is who it focuses on. It rings all the right social justice warrior bells, but the older generation who in the majority voted Brexit have seen the same collectivization, the five year plans, open border cultural equality and top down anti-democratic rule before. Do you think this is just an opinion, or I’m making it all up? I’ve been in the old USSR, I spent years teaching in China and I’ve visited N. Korea. If you’ve been in communist countries, the EU is a text book example of a coming dictatorship. What people like myself might be guilty of is that we assume others can also see the obvious and that’s not always the case. Look again at the short video link I gave and listen to a former Russian dissenter telling you what the EU is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tn2wbT5L9w

Now read the essay, watch the two videos and then come back and ask questions if you like, but please don’t try to make it into a debate at a basic level of knowledge gained from the mass-media. Now, while you’re digesting all that, some quotes for you.

“It [the EU] was devised to make sure the great mass of people could not control government, ever again” – Janet Daley.

“Of course, there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?” - Jean-Claude Juncker.

“They must go on voting until they get it right” – Jose Manuel Barroso on the European constitution 2005, changed to the Lisbon Treaty after a no vote.

“We decide on something, leave it lying around, and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don’t understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back” – Jean-Claude Junker on the introduction of the euro.

"Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly. All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and disguised " - Valery Giscard D’Estang, member of Constitutional Council of France, on the Lisbon treaty.

Now we have you telling us you are an expert in your field. So you ARE one of the intellectual elite whom we shouldn’t trust?
Come along, you can’t have it both ways!
“Cultural Marxism” is a widely disputed term, and if you care to debate it’s effects, indeed whether or not it actually exists we need to establish definitions. Sorry if you find that below you.
But if you are one of the chosen “priesthood” who expects never to be challenged, so be it.
Now again you use imprecise language:
When does migration become “mass” migration?
Haven’t small new immigrant communities always grouped together before spreading out?
Definitions again: what is a ghetto? All the Brits on the costa?

Alike the short video you employ trigger words, Marxism, ghettos, mass migration, without establishing how you define them. Accusing others of ignorance when we all know that many terms are subverted by certain political groupings is truly disingenuous and would not be employed by any reputable person.
Since you introduce no figures or sources relative to the “changing demographics” we are free to use our imaginations and prejudices as we all see fit.
My prejudice leans towards one direction as your’s means another way. Without facts it’s pointless.
Doubtless you’ll find an audience here for your conspiracy theories, so enjoy yourself.

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Oh, and a quote for you: Social Science is a science that is not testable or repeatable…
IE, Not a science.
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It doesn’t matter what the EU started out as or what it has become, as each member state leader and their predecessors have their own agendas to put forward.
The EU has fast become a modern version of the Soviet States, it’s emphasis on enforced multiculturalism and borderline communist socialism is erasing national identities, while the rich get richer through its capitalist greed.
Each of us have our own opinion of what the EU is and what action should be taken, but at the end of the day we are just drivers wether working, retired or in between jobs, and it’s fast becoming apparent our opinion doesn’t count, as petulant child acting politicians have decided it’s their job not our wishes.
Perhaps the next general election result should be followed by petitions and outcries for another election because the result wasn’t what the whinging losers wanted.

Franglais:
Oh, and a quote for you: Social Science is a science that is not testable or repeatable…
IE, Not a science.
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Which is why it’s called social science and not social opinion? It’s why we have sociology and political scientists who study human behaviour in society’s and from the effects are able to more often than not accurately predict the consequences. Franglais, I do this for a living (soon to go back to trucking), you’re very unlikely to debate anything that I haven’t already heard before. I’ve given you three links, now go and educate yourself first. :slight_smile:

Grumpy Dad:
It doesn’t matter what the EU started out as or what it has become, as each member state leader and their predecessors have their own agendas to put forward.
The EU has fast become a modern version of the Soviet States, it’s emphasis on enforced multiculturalism and borderline communist socialism is erasing national identities, while the rich get richer through its capitalist greed.
Each of us have our own opinion of what the EU is and what action should be taken, but at the end of the day we are just drivers wether working, retired or in between jobs, and it’s fast becoming apparent our opinion doesn’t count, as petulant child acting politicians have decided it’s their job not our wishes.
Perhaps the next general election result should be followed by petitions and outcries for another election because the result wasn’t what the whinging losers wanted.

The EU is rather like Marmite, you either love it or hate it and so there are no right or wrong answers. However, what it can’t disguise is what it actually is and not what it pretends to be. Just as one can’t pretend the EU is democratic if it obviously isn’t and admits it isn’t. If members of a private organization (the EU is not a nation state), tell you that it’s undemocratic, it lies, wants to abolish nation states and is modelled on the old USSR, we also have to wonder what it will be like in practice when it has complete control. The rhetorical answer is a dictatorship and that happened to all the other collectivized societies that preceded it, bar none. A dictatorship is an elite top-down rule without the legal means to vote it out.

It’s just over a decade since I last drove a truck in Britain and I was on the same average £12ph I’m seeing now. The EU were responsible for both the open borders that allowed cheap labour drivers to flood in and for businesses to make a profit out of them. Your wages didn’t rise, theirs did. Did you agree with the Working Time Directive? It doesn’t really matter whether you did or not, you couldn’t vote out the bureaucrats who made it law. VAT at 20%? The EU does affect all our lives and it won’t get any better. The reason it won’t get better is collectivization. The EU member states all rise together or all sink together and if the UK stays in it sinks with the rest.

Franglais:
Now we have you telling us you are an expert in your field. So you ARE one of the intellectual elite whom we shouldn’t trust?
Come along, you can’t have it both ways!
“Cultural Marxism” is a widely disputed term, and if you care to debate it’s effects, indeed whether or not it actually exists we need to establish definitions. Sorry if you find that below you.
But if you are one of the chosen “priesthood” who expects never to be challenged, so be it.
Now again you use imprecise language:
When does migration become “mass” migration?
Haven’t small new immigrant communities always grouped together before spreading out?
Definitions again: what is a ghetto? All the Brits on the costa?

Alike the short video you employ trigger words, Marxism, ghettos, mass migration, without establishing how you define them. Accusing others of ignorance when we all know that many terms are subverted by certain political groupings is truly disingenuous and would not be employed by any reputable person.
Since you introduce no figures or sources relative to the “changing demographics” we are free to use our imaginations and prejudices as we all see fit.
My prejudice leans towards one direction as your’s means another way. Without facts it’s pointless.
Doubtless you’ll find an audience here for your conspiracy theories, so enjoy yourself.

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I’m not an expert or elite, I’m a teacher. If you went to university to study the social sciences or English grammar at school, people like myself taught you. My answers to your questions are in the link to Cultural Marxism – Social Chaos. All you’ll need to know is in there. Don’t attack the poster, it just means you haven’t the knowledge to address the subject. Now you provide a link to your work? :slight_smile:

Today’s schools are the problem, it’s where teachers use their methods of teaching to influence pupils into their own beliefs.
My daughter was ridiculed by one of her teachers for my voting to leave the EU, why should a teacher have the right to steer a child towards their own political belief.