What's good for Putin, good for Brexiters

Putin tells May to ‘fulfil will of people’ on Brexit
Russian president also touches on rap crackdown and nuclear weapons during annual presser

Vladimir Putin has said the UK should not hold a second referendum on Brexit, insisting Theresa May must “fulfil the will of the people”.

Offering public support that the embattled British prime minister could probably do without, Putin said he understood May’s position in “fighting for this Brexit”.

“The referendum was held,” the Russian president said from Moscow during his annual press conference, which is broadcast on national television. “What can she do? She has to fulfil the will of the people expressed in the referendum.”

Britons may see some irony in a lesson on democracy from a fourth-term president who has co-opted or crushed any substantial opposition in his home country. In a statement, the former foreign secretary David Miliband, who has backed a second referendum, said it was “an insult to the United Kingdom that he should be lecturing us on our democratic process”.

Russia is seen as a possible beneficiary of the UK’s exit from the EU, and a prominent financial backer of the leave campaign, Arron Banks, met Russian embassy officials repeatedly during the run-up to the referendum in June 2016.

In a nod to recent accusations of election meddling, Putin coyly suggested he was hesitant to give advice on Brexit “lest they accuse us once again of something”.

But he then went on to criticise the idea of a second referendum or “people’s vote”, which could offer the possibility of Britain staying in the EU. A no-deal Brexit has recently become significantly more likely, with May’s deal expected to be rejected by the UK parliament.

“Was it not a referendum?” the Russian president said. “Someone disliked the result, so repeat it over and over? Is this democracy? What then would be the point of the referendum in the first place and what is the sense of direct democracy?”

Putin’s annual press conferences have taken on a carnival-like atmosphere, with some reporters donning headgear or carrying flashy signs to attract the president’s attention. The Kremlin uses the event to advance Russia’s view on world events, usually beginning with a positive assessment of the Russian economy.

On Thursday, Putin attacked the US decision to pull out of the intermediate-range nuclear forces treaty, saying the international system of arms control was “collapsing”.

Washington has accused Moscow of violating the treaty with a new cruise missile and has threatened to quit the accord. Putin said the threat of a nuclear confrontation was being “underestimated” and Russia would be forced to “to provide for our own safety”.

Putin also backed Donald Trump’s sudden announcement of a troop withdrawal from Syria, calling it the “right decision”, but added that Russia had not yet seen evidence of a drawdown.

“The United States has already been in Afghanistan for 17 years, and almost every year they say they’re withdrawing their troops,” he said.

Taking aim at Kiev, the Russian president called the recent clash with Ukraine in the Sea of Azov a “provocation”, and said the Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko, “needed to escalate the situation around the elections”, suggesting he had tried to use the crisis to improve his ratings.

Putin ruled out releasing 24 sailors taken prisoner by Russia until a court ruled on charges that they had crossed the border illegally.

More than 1,700 journalists were accredited for the media event, according to the Kremlin. These included international media and small regional outlets, asking about local initiatives to build bridges or promote business.

Roman Dobrokhotov, the editor of the Russian-language investigative website the Insider, said he was turned away from the event by federal security agents.

Dobrokhotov was one of several journalists to reveal the true identities of the suspected Salisbury nerve agent attackers, the military intelligence officers Anatoliy Chepiga and Alexander Mishkin.

Putin did not directly address the identities of the two men accused of poisoning the former spy Sergei Skripal, but he called western sanctions over the attack “politicised” and “Russophobic”.

“If there were no Skripals, they would have come up with something else,” he said during the nearly four-hour press conference.

Addressing a recent crackdown on rap music, Putin said arrests and cancelled concerts would “not lead to anything good”. But he also attacked young artists for promoting drugs.

“Why do we need that?” the Russian president asked. “It’s the degradation of the nation – do we want that? It was fashionable at one point to promote suicide, does that mean we should all go hang ourselves? Count me out.”

theguardian.com/politics/20 … the-people

hkloss1:
Putin tells May to ‘fulfil will of people’ on Brexit

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Because that article appeared in the Guardian it’ll automatically be discounted by some here. In spite of the fact it can be cross referenced with other news content.
Since they have seen an opinion piece they disagree with in a newspaper, they come to the conclusion that all ‘MSM’ is false.

Show them a screen shot of a message from a stranger and they’ll assume it must be true. Because the person passing them the message is a ‘friend’ they don’t look at the originator of the content.

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Yes, brexiters have put in place a blockade of their brains, don’t want to hear or no of any alarm bells ringing all over the place, they just don’t want know.

I was hesitant yesterday about placing that link in here, especialy from the Guardian, knowing full well, it wouod be discounted as another story from remainers newspapers, but since noticing every news broadcaster had the same story running, even brexiters very own, favourite daily mail:

6516623/Vladimir-Putin-says-second-Brexit-referendum

Putin betting on brexit, a short video from bbc, yes the same bbc, that has been bullied by brexiters to fall into line, and stop spreading lies about brexit:
bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-eur … n-a-brexit

Franglais:
Because that article appeared in the Guardian it’ll automatically be discounted by some here. In spite of the fact it can be cross referenced with other news content.
Since they have seen an opinion piece they disagree with in a newspaper, they come to the conclusion that all ‘MSM’ is false.

Show them a screen shot of a message from a stranger and they’ll assume it must be true. Because the person passing them the message is a ‘friend’ they don’t look at the originator of the content.

Taken at face value Putin is a reformed Soviet Socialist now Russian Nationalist.I don’t think there’d be any mystery or secret that European and Russian Nationalists share common ground in that regard v European Federalists.Especially when the European ‘Federalists’ in question are obviously and true to form acting as an aggressor making empty threats both regarding our secession and to Russian interests.The EU is good for peace yeah right.Picture the scene when all those deluded EU supporting university types get their call up papers for the Russian front after the EU has put down the Brit ‘rebellion’ over the cancellation ( subversion ) of Brexit.It’s clear that there are some interesting division lines opening up in all this in which hypocritical European Federalists will probably have the nerve to call Nationalist Brit Putin supporters traitors.Let alone when East Euro wakes up to the implications of the EU effectively signing them up to the UN open door immigration compact.Nationalist Slavic brotherhood v the EU enforcing its Kalergi based Soros backed agenda on them in that case.Good luck with that.

hkloss1:
Yes, brexiters have put in place a blockade of their brains, don’t want to hear or no of any alarm bells ringing all over the place, they just don’t want know.

I was hesitant yesterday about placing that link in here, especialy from the Guardian, knowing full well, it wouod be discounted as another story from remainers newspapers, but since noticing every news broadcaster had the same story running, even brexiters very own, favourite daily mail:

6516623/Vladimir-Putin-says-second-Brexit-referendum

Putin betting on brexit, a short video from bbc, yes the same bbc, that has been bullied by brexiters to fall into line, and stop spreading lies about brexit:
bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-eur … n-a-brexit

You might not have noticed it but the Daily Mail has also turned into another pro EU propaganda outlet.It’s only the Telegraph now which is even half committed to telling what it takes to extricate the country from the EU’s ■■■■■■■■■■ like it is.

In this case the only alarm bells ringing should be those related to the stinking non country of the EU and its unelected leaders trying to hijack the sovereignty of Europe’s Nation States and then illegally swaggering about on the world stage by pretending that the result is a Federal Nation State in its own right with its own national borders.While at least Putin has the validity of being the leader of an internationally recognised Nation State unlike Juncker and co.On that note yes I for one would rather trust Putin than lying unelected megalomaniacs like Juncker and Barnier etc and their vichy style puppet regime laughably masquerading as the UK parliament.

No surprise that Brexit as it stands goes along the typical EUSSR lines of keep voting until we get the answer it wants.Or in this case desperately just ignoring the referendum vote,probably after having thought that it had rigged the referendum count but some how failed.

Which leaves the question why did Farage think that its ok to vote a country out of existence and into that of vassal state of a wannabee Suerpstate regardless and not call for a boycott of traitor Cameron’s sham ‘referendum’ accordingly.Although to be fair it seems strange as to why Putin didn’t also make that point.