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Carryfast:
Not at all.One seat for almost 4 million votes while the SNP get 56 seats for less than 1.5 million votes or Labour’s 232 seats for 9.3 million votes just says more about our electoral system than UKIP being supposedly ‘too fringe’.Makes bugger all difference when that 4 million is a collection of loons spread out across the country, the Parliament election system is first past the post which UKIP will never achieve in any meaningful number.
Remainers supporting UK’s antiquated electoral system over European type PR because it suits their purpose.Just like like Kahn claiming self determination for the London remain vote in support of EU Federal rule over the country.You couldn’t make it up.No surprise as a full on EUSSR supporter you couldn’t give a zb about that anyway obviously preferring the rule of the EU’s Politburo elite and not wanting anything as inconvenient as democracy to stand in your way.
Democracy is ‘supposed’ to be all about numbers of votes not the concentration of the Soviet Socialist vote in London for example.No surprise that you’d prefer the idea of just branding your opposition as loons and forgetting all about democracy.That worked well when the similar Soviet JNA rabble,just like the remainers here,tried the same thing in Yugoslavia.On that note first past the post is a red herring anyway in the case of the example of the SNP getting 56 seats for less than 1.5 million votes v UKIP’s 1 for almost 4 million votes.
I’m sure Democrats in America were convinced that the “First past the post” nature of the Electoral College - would keep their candidate in power, despite their votes being a bit spread out compared to the Republic strongholds. It didn’t quite work though, and Trump benefited from the very system designed to keep upstarts out originally!
Something similar could happen in this country, but there are a number of factors that need to come together to make it happen:
(1) IF UKIP voters “Protest voted” Labour to “give Theresa May a fright” at the election last year - there is a good chance they will go back to UKIP at the next election.
(2) Current supports of the EDL and BNP “Traditional” Far Right Parties - will need to stop “splitting the vote” - and give UKIP a go as "the best chance they have of getting any Right Wing involvement in Government.
(3) Disenfranchised Libdem supports who persisted in voting Libdem last year - now realize that voting Libdem cannot and will not support anyone but Remainers. I believe it is a MYTH that 100% of current Libdem voters are “Remainers” however. If I’m correct, there is another source for a “UKIP boost” there.
(4) Right Wingers like myself who decided to vote Tory (to keep Labour out) now realize as we do that “there was no need to hold our noses, and continue voting for remainers in power”. Next time around - It’s UKIP all the way for this group, of which I’m part of, of course. 
(5) People who don’t normally vote. Either they have become sold on Brexit being “sped up” by this point, or decide that now is the time for a “protest vote” of their own - just to get involved, as it were. Such people would be voting UKIP south of the border - but SNP in Scotland - meaning that UKIP might yet surge - but STILL not get involved in a coalition…
(6) Young People aged 16 & 17 last year - will be over 18 by the time the next election is called, the earliest likely to be May 2019. Once again, it is a MYTH that “100% of young people are Remainers”. We used to call a certain group of youngsters “The Young Conservatives”…
These days though, - according to this guy…
“Conservatism is the new Counter-Culture”. (Warning - Contains a single ‘zb’ in the eight-minute video)