Well Bumbling Boris has now jumped so who reckons on
1, Troy leadership contest
2, General election
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44770847
Funny how all these politicians that pushed for brexit are now leaving their positions before it’s due to happen…
Won’t be an election, because the 17.4 million who voted to leave are as disgusted with and distrusting of the fake Conservative party as at any point in history, never has such treachery been seen without sombre looking judges placing black caps on their heads and pronouncing death penalties.
If they held an election tomorrow the Cons would be wiped out, i’d rather vote for my bloody cocker spaniel and she’s crackers.
Hopefully at long last they’ll finally get rid of the most useless PM in living memory, i thought Cameron was a useless puffy faced PR con man, and Blair a rather too clever by half snake oil salesman, but May has knocked those two, and Gordon Browne and the first NuLabour PM John Major 
, into statesmen like stature in comparison.
Quite why anyone with an ounce of savvy thought that the most useless Home Sec in living memory would make anything other than an as useless PM is a complete mystery.
Sadly the reason that Davis and Johnson have resigned, i believe, is not just for the sake of the UK and Brexit, but also they know that if May’s Chequers deal is ratified then the Tories are unelectable for at least 3 terms…and don’t for one minute think that Corbyn is the biggest threat, wouldn’t surprise me one bit to find that Blair back in the running, perish the thought.
Is it true by the way that May showed the Chequers Brexit agreement to Adolf Merkel before revealing all to her cabinet? if true is that not absolute treason? punishable no longer by death sadly thanks to Blair hedging his bets.
xichrisxi:
Funny how all these politicians that pushed for brexit are now leaving their positions before it’s due to happen…
In fairness to Davies, he’s been loyal to the government so far, despite not agreeing with everything. Hes now reached a point, as Juddian says, where he believes the Chequers deal to be bad. Boris on the other hand, had been consistently undermining the government, causing trouble, generally looking out for himself.
I have no problem with Davies. We all have a line in the sand, he reached his.
Anybody who believes the referendum was called for the benefit of the British people are kidding themselves, it was promised as a cynical election ploy to stop too many Conservative voters defecting to UKIP, and called to try and silence a vocal group with in the party and to stop MP’s defecting to UKIP.
Of course when Cameron called the vote, nobody in the corridors of power thought the leave camp would win, but due to a campaign that proved how out of touch they were with many people in this Country they managed to ■■■■■■ defeat from the jaws of victory.
I personally think one of the main players who thought it couldn’t happen was Boris Johnson, which is why he went with the leave camp, hoping to gain support from other a to EU tories in a leadership campaign after a victorious, but unpopular Cameron faced a leadership contest. He must of thought “oh cripes” when the result was announced, he now jumped ship, but only because others have so he’s hoping he is jumping the right way and can gain support by leaving an unpopular leader.
But seriously have we got time for yet another leadership contest or even election with the distraction and disruption that causes, while the Tory grandees have their ego driven squabble?
If there was a proper party that represented the ordinary working people in this country, I’d personally hope this tears the Tories apart and sends them into oblivion, but who would take over? Labour, another party out of touch with most ordinary people, Lib Dems, never been in touch with the ordinary people, UKIP, can’t even sort its own internal squabbles, so bugger all chance of running the country and I doubt deep down they’d be in favour of more rights for workers, but for less regulations for employers.
So we’re screwed as always.
muckles:
So we’re screwed as always.
I agree with you on most of that, the Tory party has deserved to die for some 30 years, it is the most fake Conservative party, quite why people have insisted on voting for that cabal is little short of amazing, not as the opposition are worth a light either, and i too will ignore the Libs and Greens as not sure which is them is more in need of mind altering drugs.
The electorate for too long have voted for the least worse option of those who would never be elected in a sane world, we haven’t had a mainstream party worth voting for in decades.
However, with Batten now leading UKIP, and the Tories ready (albeit with resignations growing, could be a few more yet) to show the ultimate betrayal, then i can see UKIP re-emerging as a serious force to be reckoned with, if Treason forces this betrayal through then a good proportion of those 17.4 million will never trust the Tories again as long as they live, i know i’m one of them, i just hope Farage doesn’t come back in to control things once more.
People want to vote, as the referendum proved, but they want to vote FOR something, not pin the tail on whichever donkey might be least dangerous or increasingly the one who promises them more of their own money, borrowed for the children of the genuine net contributing workers to pay back.
blue estate:
Well Bumbling Boris has now jumped so who reckons on
1, Troy leadership contest
2, General election
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44770847
I vote to return Priam to power. 
Juddian:
Won’t be an election, because the 17.4 million who voted to leave are as disgusted with and distrusting of the fake Conservative party as at any point in history, never has such treachery been seen without sombre looking judges placing black caps on their heads and pronouncing death penalties.
If they held an election tomorrow the Cons would be wiped out, i’d rather vote for my bloody cocker spaniel and she’s crackers.Hopefully at long last they’ll finally get rid of the most useless PM in living memory, i thought Cameron was a useless puffy faced PR con man, and Blair a rather too clever by half snake oil salesman, but May has knocked those two, and Gordon Browne and the first NuLabour PM John Major
Quite why anyone with an ounce of savvy thought that the most useless Home Sec in living memory would make anything other than an as useless PM is a complete mystery.Sadly the reason that Davis and Johnson have resigned, i believe, is not just for the sake of the UK and Brexit, but also they know that if May’s Chequers deal is ratified then the Tories are unelectable for at least 3 terms…and don’t for one minute think that Corbyn is the biggest threat, wouldn’t surprise me one bit to find that Blair back in the running, perish the thought.
Is it true by the way that May showed the Chequers Brexit agreement to Adolf Merkel before revealing all to her cabinet? if true is that not absolute treason? punishable no longer by death sadly thanks to Blair hedging his bets.
You and I might be prepared to vote for our ■■■■■ - but Jacob is likely to cream everyone’s crackers, I reckon!
There’s a lot of negativity about regarding JRM right now - but I reckon that is just because he represents the “biggest fear of the Left” in this country.
Mind you, he’s already ruled out standing in any “leadership contests” - so if JRM is ever to become PM - he’ll have to be MADE PM (via a “Coronation”)
All this happening on Treason May’s watch - makes it rather more obvious now why she chose to “kick the next election down the road to 2022”… The party DARE not risk another snap election by “removing her”, and then struggling to find someone to actually replace her.
The 1922 committee won’t act - unless a “Heir Apparent” is found.
In the betting - the former front-runner Jacob Rees-Mogg has now been overtaken by new bookies favourite - Sajid Javid .
If Boris and Gove can team up to put someone else on the pedestal - then whoever the incoming PM turns out to be - most of the current cabinet - can actually stay in place.
We might merely be seeing the backs of May, Hammond, and now Hunt. (for not refusing to appointment as new Foreign Secretary, in some kind of Solidarity statement on behalf of vacating Boris…)
I think the most welcome outcome of this is moving Jeremy Hunt to Foreign Secretary. For once, “better the devil” is not better.
I don’t want Corblimey but do want the NHS to continue.
Wheel Nut:
I think the most welcome outcome of this is moving Jeremy Hunt to Foreign Secretary. For once, “better the devil” is not better.
I don’t want Corblimey but do want the NHS to continue.
The new Health Secretary wants to Privatize the NHS though - so are you sure you’re happy with Hunt not doing that particular job any more, when he was pushing NHS staff to actually work around the clock like the transport industry does?
If you fall ill on a Friday, you’re far more likely to die in an NHS hospital across the following weekend as a result of “scare staff” during those weekend shift patterns.
“NHS Neglect” kills more people per year than RTAs. 
xichrisxi:
Funny how all these politicians that pushed for brexit are now leaving their positions before it’s due to happen…
Have you been living under a rock this past year?
What exactly about the Brexit we are due to be fisted with is like the Brexit we voted on?
All the remoaners are now laughing their socks off with the “I told you so’s” but what they are ignoring (which they are very good at btw) is we voted on out, out meaning out, not this ■■■■■ watered down “shaft me daddy” thing May has us heading for, we will only be out in name, and that is not what any of us leavers wanted!
Winseer:
Wheel Nut:
I think the most welcome outcome of this is moving Jeremy Hunt to Foreign Secretary. For once, “better the devil” is not better.
I don’t want Corblimey but do want the NHS to continue.The new Health Secretary wants to Privatize the NHS though - so are you sure you’re happy with Hunt not doing that particular job any more, when he was pushing NHS staff to actually work around the clock like the transport industry does?
If you fall ill on a Friday, you’re far more likely to die in an NHS hospital across the following weekend as a result of “scare staff” during those weekend shift patterns.
“NHS Neglect” kills more people per year than RTAs.
Hunt has also made noises to close the NHS. My lady is 30 years NHS and has been transferred to some private company, luckily she remains on her original contract for 18 months.
She works weekends and 10 day shifts.
Wait while Trump arrives!
Reef:
xichrisxi:
Funny how all these politicians that pushed for brexit are now leaving their positions before it’s due to happen…Have you been living under a rock this past year?
What exactly about the Brexit we are due to be fisted with is like the Brexit we voted on?
All the remoaners are now laughing their socks off with the “I told you so’s” but what they are ignoring (which they are very good at btw) is we voted on out, out meaning out, not this ■■■■■ watered down “shaft me daddy” thing May has us heading for, we will only be out in name, and that is not what any of us leavers wanted!
As a leaver I’ve given up on Brexit and I’m now even more committed to the idea of a Nationalist/Confederal Europe.While thinking that the whole thing was always just a plot to reduce that possibility by removing any UK Nationalist prescence within the European parliament.It’s now time to move on by deciding what type of Europe do we want by co operating with and supporting our European Nationalist allies.Based on the idea of the National sovereign right to say no to the stinking EU Federal government and forget all about the lost cause of a proper Brexit which was never going to happen.While also knowing that I won’t see that argument ever being settled within my lifetime.
While realistically we were never going to get proper Brexit when it’s obvious that the head of State herself and her successors are all on message with the Federal European project and all that goes with it.Also bearing in mind that the sovereignty of the country is really a matter for the military and that’s what she would have ordered in to force the matter over the treasonous parliament in 1973 if she truly believed in a sovereign Britain.In which case I can’t regard the Royals as the legitimate Heads of State here now just as they weren’t since the removal of the true Saxon line to be replaced by an invading French fiefdom of which the present Queen can also trace her lineage back to. 
Although look on the bright side luckily for me Blair’s removal of the treason legislation works both ways in that regard. 
Wheel Nut:
Winseer:
Wheel Nut:
I think the most welcome outcome of this is moving Jeremy Hunt to Foreign Secretary. For once, “better the devil” is not better.
I don’t want Corblimey but do want the NHS to continue.The new Health Secretary wants to Privatize the NHS though - so are you sure you’re happy with Hunt not doing that particular job any more, when he was pushing NHS staff to actually work around the clock like the transport industry does?
If you fall ill on a Friday, you’re far more likely to die in an NHS hospital across the following weekend as a result of “scare staff” during those weekend shift patterns.
“NHS Neglect” kills more people per year than RTAs.
Hunt has also made noises to close the NHS. My lady is 30 years NHS and has been transferred to some private company, luckily she remains on her original contract for 18 months.
She works weekends and 10 day shifts.Wait while Trump arrives!
In reference to your pic above, - it would be nice if HM can dissolve (or refuse to “open”) Parliament come November, because it does NOT have a workable Brexit plan for the coming year IN HM’s “Speech”. Think about it: We’re supposed to be leaving by the end of March 2019. SO… This Year’s “Queen’s Speech” is going to be about the most important one we’ve had in our lifetimes!
HM is supposed to stay out of politics as part of the traditional way of doing things - BUT - if the Speech for this year’s State opening of Parliament clearly shows that we’re going to be having Riots come the new financial year turning over - then I wouldn’t put it past the nation’s favourite old dear to put her own oar into proceedings, and possibly even make that pic above - come to pass! 
Winseer:
In reference to your pic above, - it would be nice if HM can dissolve (or refuse to “open”) Parliament come November, because it does NOT have a workable Brexit plan for the coming year IN HM’s “Speech”. Think about it: We’re supposed to be leaving by the end of March 2019. SO… This Year’s “Queen’s Speech” is going to be about the most important one we’ve had in our lifetimes!HM is supposed to stay out of politics as part of the traditional way of doing things - BUT - if the Speech for this year’s State opening of Parliament clearly shows that we’re going to be having Riots come the new financial year turning over - then I wouldn’t put it past the nation’s favourite old dear to put her own oar into proceedings, and possibly even make that pic above - come to pass!
The issue of the ultimate ‘sovereignty’ of the country isn’t an issue of ‘politics’ at all and it’s exactly the type of issue which we’d expect the Queen and her armed forces to rightly take on parliament over assuming parliament ever tries to delegate/hand that sovereignty over to a foreign power to whatever degree.Which leaves only one possible conclusion.The Royal perogative approves of such delegation in this case and has done since 1973.
We individual European Nations face a clear choice between “Socialism” and “Sovereignty” then.
The UK should get to spend the UK’s money on the UK’s interests - NOT be leeched for cash to support other nations anywhere with a lower standard of living than ours.
Winseer:
We individual European Nations face a clear choice between “Socialism” and “Sovereignty” then.The UK should get to spend the UK’s money on the UK’s interests - NOT be leeched for cash to support other nations anywhere with a lower standard of living than ours.
The point is the obvious ‘contradiction’ in Socialists supporting that wealth ‘redistribution’ from UK to the EU and our trade deficit and free movement and Kalergi plan type immigration policy all of which means Brit jobs for foreign workers and less share of the cake for Brits so as to support the increased immigrant population.While at the same time pretending to be bothered about the resulting ‘austerity’ to pay for it and and low wage levels caused by the over supplied labour market.
The equally obvious conclusion being that they are more interested in creating their EUSSR to replace the Soviet Union than Brit workers and then cynically pretending that they actually care about the Brit working class.
They might have got away with it, at least in the “popular” sense of things - if it were not for the simple fact that we now have a different working class to that of old, traditional bygone days.
Today’s working class will be earning more than minimum wage, have a better work ethic than those workers of say, the 70’s, and most importantly - pay their full PAYE taxes which they cannot use an accountant to get out of paying.
I suspect very strongly that this group I have just described - are the 52% that voted for Brexit.
Have a chat among your work colleagues… What’s the betting that those who get to claim “expenses” will be the “Remainers”, whilst those stuck on PAYE with no offsets - are the Brexiteers?
Those actually ON minimum wage - may well be the ones who “didn’t vote at all” because Brexit or No Brexit - their lot is going to pretty much stay the same either way.
Those at middle-management level and upwards, along with those on benefits other than tax credits - will be those who favour the status quo of course. They miss the fact that the Status Quo is actually officially LEAVE now. Too many of them still think we’ve voted Remain, and are now remaining for all eternity, the initiative gone cold in two years of our illustrious prime minister doing sweet fanny adams towards a proper, full, and hard (on the EU) Brexit. The clock is ticking alright! - For the EU!
The UK just needs to be bold enough to crush the EU as a political system like the parasite it truly is on the continent’s full-tax-paying Working Classes - assuming you’re even lucky enough to still have a job, if you live in places like Spain or Greece of course! 