Rjan:
Carryfast:
You say you’re all for democracy.So how can it be democratic for mainland European voters to decide policy over us or vice versa.Because that’s democracy, in the same way that me and you both get a say in British national elections - which could be twisted as saying that you get to decide the policy over me and vice versa.
Or unelected EU commissioners to dictate policy that’s then rubber stamped by that foreign vote.While you’re saying the way to fix the local democratic accountability deficit in National government,caused in large part by the UK Federal system and MP’s in other parts of the country voting on local matters like Heathrow Airport expansion or local development policy,where they have no local democratic mandate
But Heathrow Airport is not a local matter. The airports of a country are a national matter (of essential economic infrastructure), same as seaports, power stations, motorways, coal pits, prisons, industrial estates, water reservoirs, and so on.
Of course I’m not specifically endorsing the expansion of Heathrow, but public infrastructure has to go somewhere, and you can’t have local interests simply vetoing the democratic will of the masses - because it is obvious that amongst a gaggle of such local interests, none of them are going to agree amongst themselves to back down.
That’s not to endorse steamrollering over minorities either, but it is still for a majority themselves to decide (whilst being considerate and respectful of individual citizen’s reasonable interests) a policy on what amounts to steamrollering, and what are simply the necessary sacrifices that have to be made by some, from time to time, as part of putting public infrastructure somewhere.
It’s like Churchill said, democracy is the worst system, except for all the others.
It’s not democracy when a bunch of foreign MEP’s outside the country,who we have no vote or electoral control over whatsoever,can make policy and impose it here on the basis of foreign majority Federal vote.Let alone when it’s the unelected commissioners who actually make the rules to be implemented by the MEP’s.
In just the same way that it isn’t democracy when MP’s around the country,without a local mandate,can decide on local issues,such as local development policy way outside their own constituencies.Which is why some parts of the country are an under developed wilderness while others in the South East are an over developed nightmare with more expansion planned.Let alone when that goes as far as Scottish MP’s voting on matters affecting England and vice versa.Which ironically is the justified position of the SNP vote.But which then ‘somehow’ gets corrupted by the lying Socialist rabble,that has hijacked the Nationalist vote there,as let’s hand Scotland over to the EU on one hand while preaching local democracy and self determination for Scotland on the other. 
On that note it’s clear that you’re all about democracy only selectively when it suits you.Just like Churchill in supposedly fighting to defend the sovereignty of Europe’s nation states while actually plotting to hand them all over to an undemocratic European soviet style federation.Not to mention his despotic actions against Irish Nationalists.
As I said the lying Corbynites are closer to the Blairites than real Labour MP’s like Benn and Heffer and now Hoey.No surprise you clearly seem to support the right to scab.More than the right to strike and the unconditional expectation of solidarity against Thatcher’s rigged ballot regime as part of that,as in the case of the NUM’s defeat.Which explains why the stinking EU was so happy to see trade union rights here trampled over and Brit jobs for European workers firstly in the form of their puppet Callaghan then Thatcher then Blair.
As for Heathrow expansion not being a local matter.That seems strange when we’ve usually got loads of Labour MP’s whingeing about ‘lack of investment’ and ‘opportunities’ for jobs in the North but then suddenly seem to want all the country’s development put in the South East.Rather than share it out around the country in this case in the form of massive regional airport expansion.With the very likely result that sooner or later the extra air traffic density,all converging over the South East and London,will eventually result in a disaster in a highly populated area which makes Grenfell look like a small shed fire.