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Heck! Life gets complicated

wrong forum but nevermind

Yet another newspaper story without any backbone… I mean at least give some credible sources

BTW do you know umpa lumpas are real??

Ergot2005:
wrong forum but nevermind

Which is why it’s now moved to Bully’s Truckstop :wink:

Oh wait.She means that Britain has more in common with the interests of such paragons of civilised society as Communist China and Saudi Arabia and the anti nation state values of people like Juncker.While looking for trouble with Russia just because Russia seems to be taking a more Nationalist line. :unamused:

Are we really under attack or is it just subtle black propaganda aimed at alienating us simple folk against Russia?

Optimum:
Are we really under attack or is it just subtle black propaganda aimed at alienating us simple folk against Russia?

It doesn’t make any sense.Going back to the Cold War we all knew that we were carrying out espionage and incursions against them and they were carrying it out against us.No one gave a zb then.So why does the government think we need to now. :bulb:

No we are not under attack from Russia ,when the eu gets its own forces I think there may be trouble a third ww looks on because the little europeans love to start a war then send for the Americans to finish it

fuse:
No we are not under attack from Russia ,when the eu gets its own forces I think there may be trouble a third ww looks on because the little europeans love to start a war then send for the Americans to finish it

To be fair the Americans have been just as enthusiastic about moving the EU and NATO into Russia’s back yard when Russia walked away.

While hopefully Trump might change things in that regard.Bearing in mind that kicking off a conventional war with Russia won’t be the same thing as the small argument between Germany etc in 1914 and 39.The odds are that either Europe would be smoking pile of rubble or the Russians will be on the west coast of France and have taken us out before the Americans even manage to leave port. :bulb:

If the Russians ever nucked europe why would they want to occupy an area that was so radiated for a few centuries at least so could not sustain any life ?

raymundo:
If the Russians ever nucked europe why would they want to occupy an area that was so radiated for a few centuries at least so could not sustain any life ?

It was always going to be a case of Europe couldn’t hold back a conventional attack by Russia so we’d be the ones using the nukes.Not them only possibly in retaliation at which point it then goes to full on strategic MAD strikes from tactical. :bulb:

In answer to which NATO has now gone full ■■■■■■ in meeting the Russian conventional threat with an opposite conventional threat in the form of moving NATO into Poland etc and Ukraine being the next step.Thereby stretching a potential front which was from around the Adriatic to the North Sea to one which now stretches from the Black Sea to the Baltic.Thereby not only provoking the Russians but if it all kicks off maybe the plan is to make the Russians laugh so much they won’t be able to shoot straight. :open_mouth: :unamused:

Sad but when wall came down and the IRA problem was sorted I thought we were going to see a new world where Africa ect could be fed …all pie in sky things will never be right :angry: :angry:

fuse:
Sad but when wall came down and the IRA problem was sorted I thought we were going to see a new world where Africa ect could be fed …all pie in sky things will never be right :angry: :angry:

Contrary to the ideas of muppets like Geldof etc Africa has always had enough decent fertile agricultural land to to feed itself.But prefers to export its food supplies for cash which they obviously can’t eat.To the point where African agricultural exporters are either moaning about access for African food exports to western/far eastern markets or flogging off their farmland to foreign investors to feed the Chinese etc. :unamused:

Ido remember when Rodesia if that is how it is spelt was called the bread basket of Africa…■■?

Rhodesia was the bread basket of Africa ,but the black man wanted the white man out.Then it all went down hill for the poor people.