Rjan:
Winseer:
Regardless of one being “Of the Left” or “Of the Right” - we’ve had NEITHER now for decades, if indeed this side of WWII.Saying “Thatcher is of the Hard Right” is like saying the same of Hitler, when if anything - Hitler was of the hard LEFT. Pro Workers, Big Government, and if you don’t agree? - Bugger off somewhere else. That Hitler eventually went off the rails, and turned into a maniac is more about his own mental health and his over-zealous henchpeople who wanted to take the “■■■■ Cause” beyond mere government. Above all else though, there doesn’t seem to be much room for the “Right” in “National Socialist Worker’s Party” OTHER than the “Love thy country Nationalist” bit, which was just a mask to get elected of course.
Hitler was not hard-left - not by his own account, not by the account of his supporters, not by the account of any serious historical analyst, and not by the actual actions of the ■■■■ party.
He was not “pro-worker” - he was (self-evidently) pro-German imperialism. He was so committed to private enterprise that not only did he receive a great deal of bankrolling and support from Germany’s rich and from Germany’s petite bourgeoisie, but when war was declared, he did not even nationalise the economy (as Churchill did in Britain), but continued to issue war contracts involving profit for industrialists (in America I think Henry Ford was one of the notable beneficiaries, as was the Bush clan, and of course inside Germany industrialists were also beneficiaries).
Hitler’s opposition to capitalism would more accurately be described as opposition to globalism, and opposition to the international rich, not opposition to capitalism itself. Even the fact that the word “socialist” was eventually included in the ■■■■ party name, was a point of hot contention inside the party (including resistance from Hitler himself), but was accepted in order to increase popular support. He set up the concentration camps initially to house socialists, communists, and trade union leaders. To the extent Hitler had popular support (including amongst some working people), it is more accurate to describe him as a populist and a fascist rather than a socialist.
It’s not unlike the constituency to which right-wing Brexiteers appeal - and we see their true nature and true inclination toward workers revealed with fishing rights and passport production.
My political lexicon consists broadly of the following terms, although they are not used with any scientific precision.
Left and right wing is basically a broad description of which side of the class division your sympathies lie (i.e. it mainly refers to the economic dimension), as well as your attitudes to social policy and the role of authority (left-wingers are democratic and grassroots, right-wingers are authoritarian and elitist).
To be “centrist” in a capitalist society is to broadly accept the capitalist mode of production, market mechanisms, and private ownership of commercial property. To be “centre-left” means you want the hard edges taken off capitalism (to varying degrees) for the benefit of workers, you accept the regulatory role of the state on the economy (and tend reject it’s regulatory role in the social sphere), and that you tend to have a left-wing view of social policy. To be “centre-right” is to be the opposite - pro-market, anti-regulation (on economic matters, but not social matters - right-wingers support the police state), and a generally right-wing view of social policy.
To be “far-left” generally means that you’re a communist revolutionary and seek the overthrow of capitalism or the established order. To be “far-right” generally means you’re a fascist and seek outright military attacks on the populace (especially “troublemakers”) and the overthrow or impairment of democratic mechanisms, and the furtherance of the interests of crony elites or gangsters (not necessarily the wealthy in general, except for the subset that are politically in-favour and supporters for the time being).
There have been some leaders in the undeveloped world like Stalin and Mao who would generally be regarded as left-wing revolutionary leaders, but whose regimes in the longer term would not be seen as left-wing in the developed world - they are more like the Oliver Cromwells of their pre-capitalist societies.
To be “hard left” or “hard right” is more of an intensifier where specific individuals are concerned - not necessarily implying the extremity of the views held, but the conviction with which they are held and the fact that the holder is ideologically inclined (rather than popularity-seeking or being particularly sensitive to real-world political conditions). You might say Thatcher was “hard right”, but you would not really say that she was “far-right” except rhetorically. By the same token, you might say Tony Benn was “hard left”, but he was Labour party MP, not a communist revolutionary.
By the same token, “hard centrists” sometimes emerge as a small unpopular group who resist any sort of change or advocacy of change, and insist on some sort of compromise position or maintenance of the status quo which suits them personally, but which the majority have abandoned in preference to taking one side or another.
The mark of Socialism is a tendency towards social engineering in whatever form ( hence the name ) and an abhorrence of the idea of the nation state and of self determination along nation state lines.It’s obvious that the nazis fitted that description perfectly.As for it not also being a leftist working class Socialist faction you’ve not only conveniently tried to air brush the Socialist part of the ■■■■ Party title out of history but obviously also the word Workers part of it too.While surely you’re not suggesting that Hitler couldn’t/wouldn’t have had those words removed from the title if he didn’t believe in them being there himself.
As for your same old bs that nationalist means fascist that would by definition obviously have to apply to Michael Collins too. 
In which case it’s clear that Nationalist means centre and Hitler was of the far left just like Stalin.With Hitler having used the Nationalist logo as an electoral trick.Just like Corbyn is using the Labour one to impose a far left Socalist agenda and Sturgeon is using the Nationalist one to impose her Socialist agenda and the DDR called themselves ‘democrats’.Also followed by the LibDems calling themselves ‘democrats’ while,like Sturgeon,also standing for the EUSSR federal dictatorship.
In which case it’s clear that what we’ve got is an unholy alliance of the corporate corrupted so called ‘Capitalist’,anti nation state,globalist,far right,in the form of the Conservatives and Macron.Allied with the far left in the form of the Chinese Communist Party,ex stasi Merkel and to a lesser extent Corbyn,Sturgeon and Cable and their allies among the Italian Communists who luckily the Italians have voted out but no surprise don’t seem to have any intention of giving up their strangle hold over the country.
With the ‘centre’ clearly being made up of the all the European Nationalist Parties.
So to answer Winseer’s questions if you want centre vote Nationalist in whatever form.With all the rest being a stinking alliance of corrupt far Left and far Right all using subterfuge to get take power.The fact being that there is very little if any difference between the so called ‘left’ and the so called ‘right’ which is why May is happy to work with ex stasi Merkel and Italian Communists and the Chinese Communist Party.It’s also explains why all the signs are there in the form of false flag ops and the removal of free speech to impose their stinking agenda.The only conclusion in that regard being that Putin has gone Nationalist and they know it which also explains why they are happy to deal with Communist China but want war with Russia. 
IE it’s safe to say that left and right Socialist/Globalist elitism mean corrupt politics flying under whatever flag of convenience they see as getting them into power quickest and most effectively and as such happy to ally with each other.That includes the so called LibDems and Corbyn’s ‘Labour’ rabble which if it was honest would stand with the SLP,and Sturgeon’s anything but so called ‘Nationalists’,.
While if you want good honest centre politics then vote for whatever form of true Nationalist you can find.In our case that can only mean UKIP just as it means FN in France and AfD in Germany and Orban etc in East Euro.